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Post by jopierce on Jun 1, 2008 0:59:27 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one REALLY disappointed in the Indiana flick and thought the plot surrounding the skull was frankly completely incomprehensible, especially the ludicrous and mystifying ending. The whole refrigerator scene was so incredibly stupid (plus his not falling dead of radiation poisoning within days), that apparently, as the NY Times reports, "Nuke the Fridge" has become somewhat of a societal iconic phrase already.
Also, there were very repetitive (and thus boring) aspects to it--oh, no black scarabs, but instead ants doing the same thing. Yawn.
Indy was turned into some unrealistic superhero, not a man giving his all for good. Even in "Raiders" at the end of the day on the ship a substantially YOUNGER Indy was exhausted, bruised and sore. Not this 60-something Indy! Punch him 30 times and he's fine! Shoot him miles in a fridge and he's fine! I ridiculed that; it wasn't fun for me, it was just plain stupid. I can suspend disbelief, but not when it is THIS ridiculous.
I really liked Indy with Marion, though. Karen Allen was great! She saved the flick for me.
So, a real big disappointment.
Mona Mona, I am also disappointed big time... but I didn't want to spoil it for others...
I personally found the whole Marion subplot annoying. The ending with her is hoakey. The kid is annoying, and all you do is worry whether or not he's going to star in Indy V.
As far as believing silly stuff... I have my limits. I mean, GAH is the height of this for me. But you know that. You know cheese will ensue. It isn't supposed to be serious. For me, what offends is a film tries to be serious (in this case an action film, not specifically a parody or a comedy), but fails. Miserably.
I can suspend disbelief and go with the entire skull plot, and say "This is an otherworldly thing. YOu can't explain it." That's how I felt about the Ark and the Grail.
But the scenes that are supposed to be "real" are often so stupid. The fridge is a good example. The crotch swatting foliage is also really... shall I say... stupid...
I went into it knowing it was going to be silly. For me, Indiana Jones is silly. It's fun. I guess for an archaeologist, Indiana is like what Doogie Howser is for MDs.
Ridiculous, but it can be fun to watch...
Here is a very popular archaeologist's (ie, everyone reads his textbooks in Arch 101) take on Indy. www.swanet.org/twitter/brian_homosexualan.pdf EDIT: Gee whiz. I can't even post that link... look at what that stupid censor changed this guy's last name to! Try this link instead. twitter.com/dogyears and read the article "Take on Indy"
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Post by MelMac on Jun 1, 2008 23:33:09 GMT -5
I guess I'm the only one REALLY disappointed in the Indiana flick and thought the plot surrounding the skull was frankly completely incomprehensible, especially the ludicrous and mystifying ending. The whole refrigerator scene was so incredibly stupid (plus his not falling dead of radiation poisoning within days), that apparently, as the NY Times reports, "Nuke the Fridge" has become somewhat of a societal iconic phrase already. Also, there were very repetitive (and thus boring) aspects to it--oh, no black scarabs, but instead ants doing the same thing. Yawn. Indy was turned into some unrealistic superhero, not a man giving his all for good. Even in "Raiders" at the end of the day on the ship a substantially YOUNGER Indy was exhausted, bruised and sore. Not this 60-something Indy! Punch him 30 times and he's fine! Shoot him miles in a fridge and he's fine! I ridiculed that; it wasn't fun for me, it was just plain stupid. I can suspend disbelief, but not when it is THIS ridiculous. I really liked Indy with Marion, though. Karen Allen was great! She saved the flick for me. So, a real big disappointment. Mona I agree with the plot about the skull itself was a bit ridiculous, and you get that part figured out in the first 10 mins. of the story. So far, I've gotten two ideas that would've worked better, but one they'd had to be careful not to copy two other movies and the other I don't know if it'd work. What is funny about the atomic bomb bit to me is that he might've survived based on the fact the fridge was lead lined, because even when he got out of the item, it was a few miles away from the fallout. (I am not saying he would've - and don't want to ever have said theory tested). To me, it's the fact he was hit at ground zero and survived the blast - as he'd either had disintigrated at the impact(very little stayed standing at Hiroshima or Nagasaki), or he'd died from the crashing and bouncing around when said refridgerator hit ground. Only movie I know of that used the scarabs was "The Mummy," but I admit I haven't seen all three "Indy" movies prior to the current one. The ants, however, were effective here to me because I felt they were army ants. I remember reading "Leiningen Versus the Ants" and how creepy it was the army ants would strip a cow to bones within minutes and would even drown themselves to form bridges to cross rivers. I think Indy had more of a superhero feel here simply because directors to me nowadays feel that they cannot make their heroes fallable. The few exceptions I've noticed have been the Marvel Comics hero movies. Plus, I think they didn't want people to think that Indy had aged that much, but it harmed them more here than helped. The ending felt tacked on IMHO, and should've if nothing else, had Marion and Indy drive off into the sunset, not Mutt walking out. The one thing I'll admit is that, after being a bit disappointed with the "Star Wars" prequels, I expected this not to be as strong as the original three. That helped keep things in perspective. But, I think if they were going to go this route, they should've probably changed their mind and let it end at "The Last Crusade."
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Post by mmderdekea on Jun 1, 2008 23:51:52 GMT -5
Oh, yeah, my bad. Scarabs were Mummy; sorry!
Mona
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Post by jopierce on Jun 11, 2008 21:54:15 GMT -5
I wrote a poem today. Feel free to contemplate it and analyze the heck out of it...
It's called
Bad Bad Poem by Jo Z. Pierce
I, too, used to watch them.
Men in goatees Writing bad bad poetry In downtown cafes.
They’d drink cappuccino and nibble biscotti
Deeply contemplating the cold cold injustice of a cruel cruel world.
Sometimes I’d reach over, and borrow a spoon.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jun 11, 2008 22:31:35 GMT -5
Nice poem, Josie. Just think of the poems they won't write if the world ends tomorrow.
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Post by MelMac on Jun 12, 2008 8:30:02 GMT -5
I think that's a great and ironic poem Jo. Love the humor at the end of it being a cruel world... and you go and borrow their spoon.
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Post by jopierce on Sept 26, 2008 20:03:31 GMT -5
Like a tree in the forest, just proving it exists...
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Post by mmderdekea on Sept 27, 2008 10:57:42 GMT -5
I heard you!
Mona
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Post by jopierce on Sept 27, 2008 17:45:46 GMT -5
Hope you didn't hear us me last night.
(Mona gets jealous, you know...)
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Post by Ms Boku on Sept 28, 2008 20:34:07 GMT -5
No one knows what happened to the original actress but Jo-Noir was able to fill in. Great timing?
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Sept 29, 2008 11:31:13 GMT -5
I am sure it existed, but I chose not to post here because you would not let me wreak havoc in the Caption Contest. Plus, I was too lazy to look for it...just like I am with mine.
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Post by Ms Boku on Sept 29, 2008 21:14:16 GMT -5
I am sure it existed, but I chose not to post here because you would not let me wreak havoc in the Caption Contest. Plus, I was too lazy to look for it...just like I am with mine. ???You're sure what existed?
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Post by jopierce on Sept 30, 2008 5:40:50 GMT -5
I was being sarcastic. People didn't use my thread to say Happy B-Day, so I was pointing out that it existed.
You know...
If a tree falls in a forest, but no one is around to hears it, did it make a noise?
If a thread sits in a forum, but no one posts in it, does it exist?
Sorry. Philosophy overtook me....
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Post by Ms Boku on Sept 30, 2008 6:48:28 GMT -5
Was it your birthday? Geeze I am lost.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Sept 30, 2008 8:19:55 GMT -5
Yes, Ms. B. Josie's birthday was the 25th of the month. I think ThatGirl posted in the birthday thread first and the rest of us followed suit, even though Josie has her own thread devoted to her where we could have left her birthday wishes. I was saying that I knew it existed once she bumped her thread back up, but that I was too lazy to go find it.
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Post by billswoman on Oct 8, 2008 10:30:14 GMT -5
Jo, I'm sorry I missed telling you happy bidet!! Hope it was a good one.
How many years "old" are you any way? I'm 47 btw, just to show I don't mind sharing my own age.
(I hate when people say years "young," don't you?)
Also wanted to ask...
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Oct 8, 2008 12:37:38 GMT -5
She decided to take over your role of being gone, BW.
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Post by billswoman on Oct 11, 2008 9:50:03 GMT -5
She's been on Yahoo at least once; she sent me a PM while I was offline. I told her I hadn't seen a post on here since 10/1.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Oct 11, 2008 16:17:00 GMT -5
Good. Guilt her into coming back more regularly. ;D
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Post by jopierce on Oct 11, 2008 19:48:48 GMT -5
BW - I'm 38.
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