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Post by butterfingers on Jul 31, 2008 13:42:38 GMT -5
How cool would it be, if Ralph had discovered how to travel back in time using the suit by accident and encounters JJ Beck at his prime and had to face him suit to suit. If you all remember in the episode where JJ Beck told Ralph that he had a suit that was the same but different in many ways. Wouldn't it be great to finally see what his version of the suit looked like? Now again, the only way Ralph traveled back was due to some freak accident when JJ Beck and Ralph were doing the same thing with their suits at the same time but in different time lines that caused this to happen. Then of course Ralph would have to get back right ... well that is the easy part ... The little green guys find out that there are now 2 suits and have to investigate ... Ralph now has to convince the green guys that he is on their side and when it is all said and done, the little green guys send him back to his own time and can erase his and JJ’s memory of this so that when Ralph does encounter and old JJ beck the continuity has not been altered.
What do you all think?
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Post by MelMac on Jul 31, 2008 14:18:36 GMT -5
Don't know... might work after they do the first three comics, which will feature an updated version of the original "GAH" pilot. Still, with the suit, just about anything goes.  |
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Post by Ms Boku on Jul 31, 2008 17:42:40 GMT -5
It is a cool idea that should be explored...
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 31, 2008 21:49:03 GMT -5
I think time travel should be considered, but I am not sure the JJ Beck plot would work, mainly due to the grandfather paradox. If Ralph sets JJ Beck on the straight and narrow, Ralph might never get the suit.  |
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Post by butterfingers on Aug 1, 2008 12:46:55 GMT -5
I think time travel should be considered, but I am not sure the JJ Beck plot would work, mainly due to the grandfather paradox. If Ralph sets JJ Beck on the straight and narrow, Ralph might never get the suit. Well, whoever said that he would set him straight? It would be just a moment in time where they meet and interact, but remember, the little green guys would erase JJ's memory of the event and the time line would continue. Or you can always use the BTTF (Back to the Future) reasons ... every time you go back in time, it will create a new time line running parallel to the original. Kind of like earth 1 and earth 2 and so on. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 1, 2008 17:22:45 GMT -5
I think time travel should be considered, but I am not sure the JJ Beck plot would work, mainly due to the grandfather paradox. If Ralph sets JJ Beck on the straight and narrow, Ralph might never get the suit. Well, whoever said that he would set him straight? It would be just a moment in time where they meet and interact, but remember, the little green guys would erase JJ's memory of the event and the time line would continue. Or you can always use the BTTF (Back to the Future) reasons ... every time you go back in time, it will create a new time line running parallel to the original. Kind of like earth 1 and earth 2 and so on. I guess, but I am not sure it should include JJ Beck. After all, if he goes back and sees Beck suit to suit, Beck could realize he loses it and then Ralph might never get it. I think time travel and the suit is a great idea, but I think the JJ Beck angle complicates it with no real gain. |
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Post by mmderdekea on Aug 1, 2008 19:25:32 GMT -5
I'm never a time travel fan of any story, but IF Ralph time traveled, I think it would be quite fun for him to be involved with Bill, off on the sides, perhaps winding up behind the scene saving some Fed's life in a crisis situation, without knowing who the Fed was. Years later, hanging out one day with Bill, Bill shares the story of how his life was (perhaps oddly saved) and Ralph realizes BILL had been the Fed he saved! Having the time travel event be between Ralph and Bill is definitely more interesting than between other characters I don't care as much about.
Mona
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Post by MelMac on Aug 1, 2008 19:38:34 GMT -5
I seem to remember our first group round robin fanfic here ended up being a time travel one and it went very well. That case, Ralph had to retrieve something from the past that was affecting the world in present day. Only thing was... his ends up dealing with another issue that could affect his life: www.jadewarlock.proboards50.com/index.cgi?board=gah&action=display&thread=36It could work, but IMHO I hope they'd lean more toward the scenarios of the first season and early second season, at least these six comic books. That way people get an idea for the show without thinking that as soon as Ralph puts on the suit, it's going to be some sci-fi scenario instead of possibly stopping a nuclear holocaust, the two helping bust the bad guys, or other scenarios. |
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Post by butterfingers on Aug 1, 2008 20:29:28 GMT -5
I seem to remember our first group round robin fanfic here ended up being a time travel one and it went very well. That case, Ralph had to retrieve something from the past that was affecting the world in present day. Only thing was... his ends up dealing with another issue that could affect his life: www.jadewarlock.proboards50.com/index.cgi?board=gah&action=display&thread=36It could work, but IMHO I hope they'd lean more toward the scenarios of the first season and early second season, at least these six comic books. That way people get an idea for the show without thinking that as soon as Ralph puts on the suit, it's going to be some sci-fi scenario instead of possibly stopping a nuclear holocaust, the two helping bust the bad guys, or other scenarios. If we could have a sprinkle of both regular scenarios and sci-fi to balance it out. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 1, 2008 22:33:26 GMT -5
I agree, Mona. It would be more fun to have him interact with the characters that we know better like Bill. Or a future time travel. ;D
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Post by butterfingers on Aug 5, 2008 13:16:43 GMT -5
I agree, Mona. It would be more fun to have him interact with the characters that we know better like Bill. Or a future time travel. ;D hmmm... forget about time travel ... what would be more fun would be alternate universes. You could have a lot of fun with that. Maybe Bill gets the suit instead ... the possiblities are endless. |
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Post by MelMac on Aug 7, 2008 15:52:29 GMT -5
I agree, Mona. It would be more fun to have him interact with the characters that we know better like Bill. Or a future time travel. ;D hmmm... forget about time travel ... what would be more fun would be alternate universes. You could have a lot of fun with that. Maybe Bill gets the suit instead ... the possiblities are endless. Definitely. I've been working on a story that involves the issue, and there can be many things that happen with just one choice. I'm just tickled they're doing this - which they didn't have to in the first place. |
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 7, 2008 20:07:11 GMT -5
Well, whoever said that he would set him straight? It would be just a moment in time where they meet and interact, but remember, the little green guys would erase JJ's memory of the event and the time line would continue. Or you can always use the BTTF (Back to the Future) reasons ... every time you go back in time, it will create a new time line running parallel to the original. Kind of like earth 1 and earth 2 and so on. I guess, but I am not sure it should include JJ Beck. After all, if he goes back and sees Beck suit to suit, Beck could realize he loses it and then Ralph might never get it. I think time travel and the suit is a great idea, but I think the JJ Beck angle complicates it with no real gain. I agree that it would complicate things but if the adventure was done around JJ getting the suit. so we would see things indirectly. But Raplh would have to make sure that anything involving JJ stays the same. and it would drive him a bit loopy because he would want to help him but knew he couldn't. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 8, 2008 23:14:49 GMT -5
See? If he doesn't help, what would be the point of going back?
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Post by butterfingers on Aug 9, 2008 22:09:17 GMT -5
See? If he doesn't help, what would be the point of going back? I would say the point being ... it would make for a great story ... THink about all the time travel episodes of all the sci-fi shows and at the end, it didn't matter that they went back. It always corrected itself. Bottomline .... it makes for a good story is all and would be very interesting to see how JJ got his suit and what he did and also to see his version of his suit. It more for the reader/viewer then anything else. It would be one of those ... WHAT-IF episode. We all love those right? It breaks away from a story line and the same'ol same'ol routine. Also Alternate universes are always welcomed. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 10, 2008 10:11:16 GMT -5
Really? I remember most time travel doing something. BACK TO THE FUTURE, QUANTUM LEAP, etc. Something happened when they went back and something stayed changed overall. If he is just observing, what a waste.
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 10, 2008 10:45:51 GMT -5
See? If he doesn't help, what would be the point of going back? That would have to be up to the creativeness of the author. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 10, 2008 12:15:23 GMT -5
I guess, but if it is just to observe, it would be better to write it as though the person was JJ Beck and Ralph was not there. It sounds like a cheap way to have Ralph travel back in time, but not have to deal with the time travel theories and paradoxes. That is why BACK TO THE FUTURE is awesome. There are consequences. |
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Post by MelMac on Aug 11, 2008 0:30:51 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe they could also do a story where Pam gets the suit, as well as possibly switching places. Also, I'd kinda like to see a story where a family tie to the past affects Ralph, Bill or Pam - possibly a combo. Example, maybe there's a book of secrets one of the trio's family left on an old ship that holds top secrets that now some force wants to get. Don't know, there's a lot of possibilites - they just need to be searched out. |
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Post by butterfingers on Aug 11, 2008 19:00:37 GMT -5
I don't know, maybe they could also do a story where Pam gets the suit, as well as possibly switching places. Also, I'd kinda like to see a story where a family tie to the past affects Ralph, Bill or Pam - possibly a combo. Example, maybe there's a book of secrets one of the trio's family left on an old ship that holds top secrets that now some force wants to get. Don't know, there's a lot of possibilites - they just need to be searched out. I GOT IT!!! How about this one ....... What IF!! Ralph never lost the instruction book .. where would they be? nowthat would be an interesting look at how things could ahve gone. |
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