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Post by butterfingers on Apr 15, 2009 18:10:40 GMT -5
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Post by butterfingers on Apr 17, 2009 12:24:02 GMT -5
Book 3 will be the best one yet and I just know that the cover will be awesome as well. Who picked up Ralph's book? what will they do with it? Will Ralph be able to control his powers?
I like 1 and 2 and with 3 being released soon, Im sure it will be a great start to a wonderful series.
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Post by butterfingers on Apr 26, 2009 11:35:36 GMT -5
Hey guys, Book 3 is almost done!! Go to Catastophiccomics.com to see a panel from a page of book 3. What do you think of Pams hair?
Its in the NEWS section
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Post by Ms Boku on May 19, 2009 17:58:11 GMT -5
Well here it is! Issue 3  |
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Post by MelMac on May 19, 2009 18:03:13 GMT -5
Hmm... Marci, is that the same artist or a different one? Ralph does look a bit different. Does make me wonder to - mind you jokingly - what would've happened if McCain were president instead? I knew they mentioned liberal president, but am surprised at this spoiler.  Hey, just one question: I think Marvel (Stan Lee) did this with Spiderman comics - Spidey meets Obama. Does Katt know this? |
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Post by MST3Claye on May 20, 2009 0:14:50 GMT -5
Hmm... Marci, is that the same artist or a different one? Ralph does look a bit different. Does make me wonder to - mind you jokingly - what would've happened if McCain were president instead? I knew they mentioned liberal president, but am surprised at this spoiler. Hey, just one question: I think Marvel (Stan Lee) did this with Spiderman comics - Spidey meets Obama. Does Katt know this? I'm sure there will be a debate about the cover (the Spidey thing). I can't say about the artist because I'm having to wait till the Heroes Convention in June to pick up Issue 2.. and probably 3 will be out for it. I can however understand how really hard it is to draw faces. If you've seen my youtube videos (I know Mel has) I think faces are the toughest subject matter to draw. Kudos to the artist, looks great. |
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Post by MelMac on May 20, 2009 8:58:17 GMT -5
I'm sure there will be a debate about the cover (the Spidey thing). I can't say about the artist because I'm having to wait till the Heroes Convention in June to pick up Issue 2.. and probably 3 will be out for it. I can however understand how really hard it is to draw faces. If you've seen my youtube videos (I know Mel has) I think faces are the toughest subject matter to draw. Kudos to the artist, looks great. I do agree it looks great - but at the same time have one minor worry that it might be where the president does actually meet Ralph and thanks him. The last time that happened - Ralph had to handover the suit (GAHeroine). While I doubt it's the case here, still makes me wonder if they're going to do that or not. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on May 20, 2009 9:15:11 GMT -5
If the comic is going out of business, it might well be the way to wrap up the story...with an homage to the original series doing the same. ;D
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Post by MelMac on May 20, 2009 10:09:45 GMT -5
If the comic is going out of business, it might well be the way to wrap up the story...with an homage to the original series doing the same. ;D Thing is, unless there's something I'm not reading somewhere, the comic company is not going out of business. Just because "Sparks" itself went to animated comic instead of print doesn't mean that all is lost with Catastrophic Comics. That was only because Diamond printing stopped printing Indies. In fact, they're continuing with "Mythology Wars" and I believe they're going to do a graphic novel for "Sparks" once all the animated ones are released so collectors can have all six in drawn form as well. The only way I can see them not going past the third one (other than reneging on their minimum 6 book promise ) is if the rumor Mortimer said was true and they are in fact officially casting and starting filming of "GAH." They would do this only because whomever is Ralph will not look like Katt. They wouldn't want people new to the show to be confused. It's similar to when "Superman Returns" came out that the Six Flags parks didn't have a Superman - Not everyone could look like the actor and they didn't kids to go "That's not Superman, he's a fake" and cause all kinds of ruckus. |
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Post by PDavidson1981 on May 24, 2009 0:31:23 GMT -5
Well here it is! Issue 3 Is it just me, or is Ralphie-boy sporting a goatee here? ;D Still a great cover just the same. |
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Post by mmderdekea on May 24, 2009 8:36:35 GMT -5
I don't actually like the cover. Ralph doesn't really look that much like Ralph and he's WAY too "beefcake". It's just not at all a good representation of TGAH's Ralph. If they want a newer, muscled, "superhero" type look, that's the artist's (poor, IMO) choice. But, the original Ralph being lean and having a regular guy build--vs. the taller, broader shouldered Fed partner--was an endearing part of the shtick of TGAH.
Of course, one can't judge the whole representation of artwork by a cover, either.
Mona
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Post by MelMac on May 24, 2009 22:53:51 GMT -5
*POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD as I have not seen the cover outside of the one posted here* Looking at the comic cover again after a few days, and from rumors I've read, this may or may not be the cover. Won't know for sure until I or someone here buys the comic. I'm now a bit skeptical myself because the cover just looks a bit rough as far as both Ralph and Obama - plus it would make the story arc confusing if Ralph did suddenly have a goatee (one reason I think it's a rough draft or we're seeing shadowing instead). That said, from the looks of things, the artist might've drawn Ralph based on how he looks in "GAHeroine" - the one time we do see Ralph actually shake hands with the President. In that episode, we see a more "beefcake" (muscular) Ralph:  To explain why *this* particular photo, I had trouble snagging a screencap and this is the only one I could get at the time with Ralph in the "Heroine" in the suit. That said, if my computer would've let me, I'd taken a waist up shot of Ralph in the close up that shows a more defined chest than his earlier days - one that is closer to this comic rendering.All that said, I'm sure that Katt in particular (as it's his likeness) and SJC have to approve the drawings, so who knows? If this is the one that was used as it is, I don't know the reason for the change, save this may be a new artist and therefore a different interpretation. |
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Post by greenguy on May 25, 2009 5:42:11 GMT -5
The cover posted is the actual cover. I picked up my copies of number 3 last Thursday.
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Post by MelMac on May 25, 2009 8:26:09 GMT -5
The cover posted is the actual cover. I picked up my copies of number 3 last Thursday. Thanks Greenguy - does it look exactly as it's scanned here or are the drawings a little bit smoother? |
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Post by MST3Claye on May 25, 2009 12:23:30 GMT -5
I'd have to agree about the roughness. It looks like they started off alright at the bottom and when they finally arrived at the top it was more of a sketch with limited colors which made the shading different. As one who draws and thinks that faces and proportions are very difficult to reign in. I can definitely understand the parts that don't look exact. If you notice, Obama was drawn with a larger forehead between his eyebrows and his hairline. Check out my youtube vids or deviantart stuff and you'll see that I fall into this group of where it may look like them but things are off. One of these days I'll get to work on a speed drawing of GAH.  EDIT: Oops! Forgot to mention that to me, it reminds me of Ralph during Season 3. He had a shorter haircut and a somewhat build, see episodes like Heaven is in Your Genes and 30 Seconds Over Little Tokyo. |
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Post by mmderdekea on May 25, 2009 16:34:55 GMT -5
While I appreciate folks saying "it's hard to get a face right", hey, these folks are artists, that's their job. They aren't doodlers like me, who draw people in stick figures. They make money and earn a living drawing. We don't always have to give artists who do a bad job, like on that cover art of Ralph, (IMO), that much slack. Ralph's face is ALL wrong--too long, too heavily bony, his cheeks are too wide--let alone the beefy body. Claye pegged some of the Obama irregularities.
I wonder what went on behind the scenes and how that caricature of Ralph got approved. No matter how much folks want to say Ralph bulked up, he never looked anything like that, EVER. I know, I know, we all just want to love the whole comic book, me included, but giving the artist that kind of wide slack is kind of like protecting a writer who can't correctly use punctuation and grammar; it's not okay. It's their obligation to do a good job. I CARE about how things look, which is why I'm really disappointed.
One only hopes that the inside artistry is much closer to the characters we know and love. I hope Ralph doesn't look like the cover inside. I don't mind the goatee if Katt is bringing some of his present day looks into his old character. I suppose that could work for me.
Mona
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Post by MelMac on May 25, 2009 17:31:07 GMT -5
While I appreciate folks saying "it's hard to get a face right", hey, these folks are artists, that's their job. They aren't doodlers like me, who draw people in stick figures. They make money and earn a living drawing. We don't always have to give artists who do a bad job, like on that cover art of Ralph, (IMO), that much slack. Ralph's face is ALL wrong--too long, too heavily bony, his cheeks are too wide--let alone the beefy body. Claye pegged some of the Obama irregularities. Comparing the rendering of Ralph's face to Katt's I can see your point. The jawline is a bit too square. The hair is also in line with the first two comics - curly but short cut, a lot like it was when Katt was in "Perry Mason." That said, watching the scene of Ralph in the suit in "GAHeroine," I would maintain that this is the way Katt's body was built in those scenes. Watching the series from episode one to 42 (if you choose to ignore "GAHeroine") you can still see that Katt did start filling out the suit more to where he did tend to fill the suit out to where he looked more like an overstuffed sausage than a person wearing a funny suit. (BTW, I'm not saying this as a Katt fan, but as someone who appreciates the minutae of how the suit was made. It's also a reason that I loved studying both versions of the Morgan Hathaway costume in "TGAH 2008.") I've already mentioned the bulking up point in the first part of my response. And, as I have mentioned, it would have to be approved by Katt and also SJC. When the Tiki statue was made of Ralph (the one that Ralph really is a caricature), they had to get it approved by Katt before the models could be made. They did that for two reasons - one to get his permission and two it's his image they're profiting off of, and you don't want people calling you a hack and Katt mad if it was a bad likeness. And - I may be wrong here and Marci can correct me, but there might be a different artist on the third comic book cover. Different people have different renderings, therefore some will cut them some slack because people know each person's different. Example, I personally make fused glass jewelry, and have a friend who also makes them. I'm a rookie, she's more elite in that matter. That said, she loves my pieces and has even bought some of them - even though she has her own collection. This I don't think any of us will know until we get the comic. For all we know, this cover could've been made to keep in line with a lot of the tribute to Obama comics that I've seen around - such as the Spiderman one. Personally, I'm a little disappointed that they did a cover with Obama only because it dates the comics and the time our characters are from. The Livestrong bracelets and cell phones didn't bother me too much because it just generalizes the time to early 21st century, but with him in the picture, it's now minimum Nov. 4, 2008 - when he was elected. "The Greatest American Hero" is a timeless show, and I wish they had kept that aspect of it intact. Of course, there is some humor to it - I do have my wonders at times of what they'd had to do if Obama wasn't elected. Would they have gone with a generic president if Obama lost? Then again... McCain is considered moderate, so it might have been different. |
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Post by MST3Claye on May 25, 2009 18:11:34 GMT -5
While I appreciate folks saying "it's hard to get a face right", hey, these folks are artists, that's their job. They aren't doodlers like me, who draw people in stick figures. They make money and earn a living drawing. We don't always have to give artists who do a bad job, like on that cover art of Ralph, (IMO), that much slack. Ralph's face is ALL wrong--too long, too heavily bony, his cheeks are too wide--let alone the beefy body. Claye pegged some of the Obama irregularities. I wonder what went on behind the scenes and how that caricature of Ralph got approved. No matter how much folks want to say Ralph bulked up, he never looked anything like that, EVER. I know, I know, we all just want to love the whole comic book, me included, but giving the artist that kind of wide slack is kind of like protecting a writer who can't correctly use punctuation and grammar; it's not okay. It's their obligation to do a good job. I CARE about how things look, which is why I'm really disappointed. One only hopes that the inside artistry is much closer to the characters we know and love. I hope Ralph doesn't look like the cover inside. I don't mind the goatee if Katt is bringing some of his present day looks into his old character. I suppose that could work for me. Mona I understand and agree with your point that they are being paid to do this and should do the job well. I'm just saying some possibly do it better than others. I remember a while back in the comic book world there were folks that were up in arms about the way one artist drew marvel characters. I think the artist would add those strapped pouches to almost every limb and joint on the body. Personally, I feel my problem is proportions. This is coming from a graduate with an associates degree in fine arts, now if only I could find a paying job in this line of work for myself. Wonder if CC is hiring. Also, fwiw... mst3claye.deviantart.comwww.youtube.com/mst3claye |
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Post by MelMac on May 25, 2009 18:47:50 GMT -5
I understand and agree with your point that they are being paid to do this and should do the job well. I'm just saying some possibly do it better than others. I remember a while back in the comic book world there were folks that were up in arms about the way one artist drew marvel characters. I think the artist would add those strapped pouches to almost every limb and joint on the body. Personally, I feel my problem is proportions. This is coming from a graduate with an associates degree in fine arts, now if only I could find a paying job in this line of work for myself. Wonder if CC is hiring. Also, fwiw... mst3claye.deviantart.comwww.youtube.com/mst3clayeI agree - you look at comics from over the ages, there's always differences in how the person is drawn. Superman of the first year isn't how we see him today. Sometimes, even the age of the particular superhero they're drawing (gold/silver) affects how they must look. Even if the characters are based on how a real life person looks, there are bound to be differences. Example, in "Doctor Who" Tennant has had a few variations in drawings that are conceived as official. He looks different from his cartoon version in "the Infinite Quest" versus how he looks in the static comics of some of the "DW" magazines. But, the point is - he is still easily recognizeable, both in face and body before you look at the clothes. Even here with Ralph, I can still identify him as Ralph Hinkley and not some wannabe on the cover. Doesn't matter to me if they drew him closer to his looks and build in "GAHeroine" (You know, looking at it, he does look to be about 36 instead of the 25 years he's supposed to be in the comic looking at it again), I'm still going to enjoy it.  |
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Post by mmderdekea on May 25, 2009 20:30:16 GMT -5
You know, Culp is a superb artist (as well as writer, actor, director)--did you ever see that dog he drew for a charity bash? It was INCREDIBLY good! Perhaps if there is a fourth comic and they want to save money and use an artist for less cost, they could ask him for a favor! ;-) Ralph wasn't that beefcake in the first two comic books, no matter what people think he looked like in GAHeroine (which was not that beefcake, either, to me). Perhaps the GG slipped him some alien hormones between the 2nd and 3rd comic book.... Mona |
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