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Post by ThatGirl on Mar 6, 2005 19:49:48 GMT -5
Why did Ralph always wear so many items of clothing? Granted, the tie did come in handy as a tourniquet in 'Hit Car", but imagine how much easier his life would have been if he had been a more casual dresser!
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Post by magicjammies on Mar 7, 2005 8:02:57 GMT -5
Yeah he must have spent a fortune on his clothes lol Wonder how many wallets he lost also? ;D
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Post by greenguy on Mar 7, 2005 10:39:49 GMT -5
Why did Ralph always wear so many items of clothing? Granted, the tie did come in handy as a tourniquet in 'Hit Car", but imagine how much easier his life would have been if he had been a more casual dresser! You nailed part of the charm of the show TG. I loved the fact nothing ever went smooth in the super-hero biz for Ralph.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 7, 2005 11:24:10 GMT -5
Ralph really could have used one of those 'drunk suits' like Peter O'Toole had in My Favorite Year.
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Post by ThatGirl on Mar 7, 2005 11:48:14 GMT -5
You nailed part of the charm of the show TG. I loved the fact nothing ever went smooth in the super-hero biz for Ralph. Yeah. Remember when the kidnappers' car goes by him in Saturday on Sunset Blvd., and he's still changing. He says, "Wait, I'm not ready..." or something to that effect. (Pam proceeds to get them with the dumpster.)
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Post by greenguy on Mar 7, 2005 11:57:58 GMT -5
Yeah. Remember when the kidnappers' car goes by him in Saturday on Sunset Blvd., and he's still changing. He says, "Wait, I'm not ready..." or something to that effect. (Pam proceeds to get them with the dumpster.) Oh yeah, you gotta love it before that when he's running down the alley, trying to change clothes and he see's the phone booth, and says "Never!" then reconsidering, all of a sudden it's "Aw, what the hell!"..lol But he did get somewhat better at the quick change. Wait to you get to the 3rd season. In the episode Thirty Seconds Over Little Toyko, he runs behind some bushes in his street clothes, only to reappear about a second later in the full suit.
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Post by ThatGirl on Mar 7, 2005 12:05:49 GMT -5
Wow! Maybe he figured out a quick change function of the suit?
I can't wait to see all of these great episodes I've forgotten.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 8, 2005 9:52:06 GMT -5
No, he was doing the quick change because he must have know that was the last episode ABC was going to air.
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Post by ThatGirl on Mar 8, 2005 10:31:14 GMT -5
Sucks.
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Post by Vanguard on Mar 8, 2005 14:26:41 GMT -5
Was it ever established that the suit doesn't work unless Ralph takes off his street clothes first?
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Post by magicjammies on Mar 8, 2005 14:53:49 GMT -5
Im not sure?I know in episodes like two hundread mile an hour fastball ralph is able to conceal the suit and still use its powers
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 8, 2005 14:54:53 GMT -5
Sort of. They kind of went back and forth on that one. There was some direct reference to it in the final episode of the second season (Lilacs, Mr. Maxwell) in the beginning, where Ralph turns invisible, Bill remarks "How can you do that with your clothes on?!" and Ralph tells him he's been practicing at it - I thought that was kinda cool. Aside from that, you usually saw Ralph be able to withstand body blows and such with his clothes still on, but he'd usually strip as fast as possible when anything big came up, unless he was in a situation where he needed to use the suit in public and not draw attention - check him pulling out just the red sleeve of one arm when about to throw the two-hundred-mile-an-hour-fastball.
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Post by Vanguard on Mar 8, 2005 15:19:48 GMT -5
Hmm... I guess you could say that "involuntary" powers like invulnerability and such would still work. Wasn't there also a reference to his power being diminished if he wasn't wearing all the pieces, such as the belt or cape?
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Post by greenguy on Mar 8, 2005 15:21:15 GMT -5
Sort of. They kind of went back and forth on that one. There was some direct reference to it in the final episode of the second season "Lilacs, Mr. Maxwell" where, in the beginning, where Ralph turns invisible, Bill remarks "How can you do that with your clothes on?!" and Ralph tells him he's been practicing at it - I thought that was kinda cool. Aside from that, you usually saw Ralph be able to withstand body blows and such with his clothes still on, but he'd usually strip as fast as possible when anything big came up, unless he was in a situation where he needed to use the suit in public and not draw attention - check him pulling out just the red sleeve of one arm when about to throw the two-hundred-mile-an-hour-fastball. But even in lilac's, Ralph strips his jacket off to reveal the top half of the suit: Maxwell:"How can you do that with your clothes on?!" Ralph: "I've been practicing with my shirt off." The most confusing part for me was the fact Ralph could actually be hurt if his head was not protected. He's hurt in Train of Thought, when he smashes full speed, head first into runaway boxcars. You can also see a scene in Space Ranger that shows trying to remove his street clothes, while getting punched in the jaw, and he goes down. It's possible to bring up the point that no part of the suit covers his head, so it's powers cannot protect him. If that's the case, then how is he able to perform super feats using his hands? They aren't covered, and he can bend bars of a jail cell, crush guns, and do that whole super-friction thing, as seen in The Good Samaritan, Divorce Venusian Style, and The Price is Right. But even Katt said in an interview once, that Ralph must cover his head when getting shot at, because it's not protected. Obviously it's just something for the writers to use to make show more fun, but it's kinda cool to discuss factors such as this.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 8, 2005 15:56:53 GMT -5
Good point, and there's also The Best Desk Scenario, when Ralph is able to walk away OK after having a car dropped on him because he covers his head with the cape beforehand. Hey, the point Vanguard makes - wasn't that an unfinished script or something concerning how Ralph didn't have full power without the cape or a piece of the suit missing? That sounds familiar. Great point about the hands, by the way. Never even thought of it. How come the greenguys didn't give him super gloves? Those lousy m...
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Post by greenguy on Mar 9, 2005 10:31:12 GMT -5
Good point, and there's also The Best Desk Scenario, when Ralph is able to walk away OK after having a car dropped on him because he covers his head with the cape beforehand. Hey, the point Vanguard makes - wasn't that an unfinished script or something concerning how Ralph didn't have full power without the cape or a piece of the suit missing? That sounds familiar. Great point about the hands, by the way. Never even thought of it. How come the greenguys didn't give him super gloves? Those lousy m... Good catch about the scene in The Best Desk Scenario. That sounds like Culp's script: The Long Fall at Two, Four, and Ten. lmf....
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 9, 2005 13:14:42 GMT -5
Ah, you can always tell when Culp is involved in writing/directing - the titles always have a comma in them.
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Post by MyTatuo on Mar 9, 2005 16:06:11 GMT -5
My thought was that the suit gave him SOME protection to his head and hands, but not as much as the areas covered by the suit. He could do a header into a wall or a moving train, but he could crash THROUGH walls with the force of his shoulder, etc.
I'm sure he could survive a bullet to the face, but it wouldn't be pretty. Perhaps the suit can produce a minimum "shield" (easily creating & repelling friction heat, somewhat repelling blunt-force trauma).
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 9, 2005 17:06:47 GMT -5
Ah, but can it protect you from getting your timeslot changed? THAT'S the key!
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Post by Vanguard on Mar 9, 2005 18:56:33 GMT -5
If that's the case, then how is he able to perform super feats using his hands? They aren't covered, and he can bend bars of a jail cell, crush guns, and do that whole super-friction thing, as seen in The Good Samaritan, Divorce Venusian Style, and The Price is Right. That's right. Also doesn't he ask the audience if they want to see him break something with his teeth when he's hosting Saturday Night Live in "The Greatest American Heroine?"
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