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Post by MelMac on Jul 11, 2006 14:42:08 GMT -5
Good luck. You still might be better off just writing on your own and having people critique it rather than waiting for partners.  Yep, or as HD said limit it to one or two more. It's good to bouncie ideas off the other, but if you have too many, you have people being in one scene awake and the next out cold or send Ralph in the wrong direction to California... (wait, I did the second one.  ). (BTW, if I do join, I would be careful enough to not do that. Once was bad enough, and I'm having fun right now trying to get the Swedish Chef's voice down correctly).) |
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Post by extreme01 on Jul 12, 2006 11:37:04 GMT -5
Thanks again for the input all, but I think I'll wait just a little bit to see if I can get anyone with script-writing experience aboard as I....well....kinda suck at it. I've tried before, but I can't seem to get the proper structure and writing shape of a script correct. So that's one of the reasons why I need a few good volunteers to help. That and having a few people along for the ride would be fun as well.
Later
Ted
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 12, 2006 11:40:21 GMT -5
I have the format. I have written scripts for other shows such as STARGATE SG-1...unproduced of course.  I am working on half-hour comedy scripts too. I have the experience to put it into a script if you have the basic story outline. I thought you wanted to write it like a story and sell the rights for the movie. |
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Post by extreme01 on Jul 12, 2006 12:24:57 GMT -5
First I'm going to try to decide which idea to choose, then work on a script and go from there.
For a story idea, do you need many pages, or an outline to turn into a script?I'm kinda new at this, the only other "script" I tried to write was a proper sequel for the Wishmaster series and try to undo what they did for number 3 & 4. So once again, any guidance and help that can be provided on ther step-by-step process and such would be great.
Thanks
Ted
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 12, 2006 12:39:50 GMT -5
It would help if you had an outline of where to go. Most people will tell you that an hour television show is roughly 80-90 pages probably, depending on action and dialogue. You can do about a page of dialogue a minute. It is always better to go over on pages than under because you can edit out easier than edit in. For a feature or a two hour...120 pages in the vicinity I would say. If I can find it, I wrote a script YEARS ago about THE NEXT AMERICAN HERO or something like that. That was before I found this board...probably about ten to fifteen years ago. It was my first real attempt. I am sure I have it somewhere, but could improve it now since I have all three seasons and have a better understanding of the show. I might look for it the next time I visit my folks...it is probably in that mess somewhere. |
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Post by MelMac on Jul 12, 2006 13:12:10 GMT -5
It would help if you had an outline of where to go. Most people will tell you that an hour television show is roughly 80-90 pages probably, depending on action and dialogue. You can do about a page of dialogue a minute. It is always better to go over on pages than under because you can edit out easier than edit in. For a feature or a two hour...120 pages in the vicinity I would say. If I can find it, I wrote a script YEARS ago about THE NEXT AMERICAN HERO or something like that. That was before I found this board...probably about ten to fifteen years ago. It was my first real attempt. I am sure I have it somewhere, but could improve it now since I have all three seasons and have a better understanding of the show. I might look for it the next time I visit my folks...it is probably in that mess somewhere. Yep, read your SG-1 script and it was a fun read too.  My first attempt at a script was for "Ghostbusters" well, the one with Jake, Eddie, Tracy the gorilla fighting Prime Evil, Scared Stiff, and Braterat (OK... probably not remembered, but a fave show of mine in regards to cartoons). Unfortunately, my teacher wanted to keep it (no bad reason, just to use as a nom for the G/T class, which I didn't get into regardless  ). I've been pondering just for the heck of it, to script "Ties..." and see if it was feasible as a TV movie. I'd have to remove at least one scene, given the actor's ages wouldn't be possible, but it'd be fun just to try and see if I can write it. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 12, 2006 13:30:43 GMT -5
Scripts are tricky because you have to rely on dialogue and action to get points across. Few shows do the internal dialogue that books and stories do. If you can overcome that obstacle, which is the hardest one, then you can easily write scripts.
You might be able to MelMac, but you have a lot of internal character thoughts in yours and that would make them trickier to teleplay.
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Post by MelMac on Jul 12, 2006 13:35:48 GMT -5
Scripts are tricky because you have to rely on dialogue and action to get points across. Few shows do the internal dialogue that books and stories do. If you can overcome that obstacle, which is the hardest one, then you can easily write scripts. You might be able to MelMac, but you have a lot of internal character thoughts in yours and that would make them trickier to teleplay. Hence the challenge. The two big internal thoughts are Aidan's and Tony's the night of the suit handover and her actual nightmare of Ralph and Pam being in the fatal car wreck instead of her parents (it's been alluded to, based on Ralph and Pam's reaction to her description of the nightmare, so I don't mind spoiling that for later on). 'Course, I'm writing on a new story, so it's on the backburner too. Funny thing is, the only story I've had someone list as their favorite is "Scenario Switcharoo," (I had an update alert on a missing scene, which was funny too as it's complete as is. ) which is the one where Pam wears the suit for a time when Ralph's injured. But, people have really liked the Aidan idea, so who knows? |
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Post by extreme01 on Jul 12, 2006 15:29:21 GMT -5
wow. all that,huh?? I guess I have my work cut out then. I'll see what I can come up with. do a little brainstrorming and such. maybe look at the dvd-rom script of the"200 mile an hour fastball" on the season 2 disc. Anyways, I'll be back.
Ted
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Post by MelMac on Jul 12, 2006 16:02:09 GMT -5
wow. all that,huh?? I guess I have my work cut out then. I'll see what I can come up with. do a little brainstrorming and such. maybe look at the dvd-rom script of the"200 mile an hour fastball" on the season 2 disc. Anyways, I'll be back. Ted It's a pretty well-written version of the episode, but in some cases it's not the final version. It is easy to follow though. I'm still in it though if you're wanting a second writer or proofer. I've got a lot of ideas and plot bunnies in my head (a few here will vouch for it) so feel free to banter the ideas with me. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 12, 2006 16:58:17 GMT -5
Looking at the script will help. You might even think of getting a book about scriptwriting since you are starting off...there are several out there. If I can find my old ones, I will let you know the ones I have. The main thing about scripts is remembering that you have to SHOW your ideas with less words overall. Plus, it is not like a play where you decide things like stage left and the like. It is the bare bones of dialogue and action. Yes, MelMac, has tons of plot bunnies...to quote Bill Maxwell "Can't shut her up about 'em." Not a direct quote, but close. Know the episode? |
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Post by MelMac on Jul 12, 2006 18:27:47 GMT -5
Looking at the script will help. You might even think of getting a book about scriptwriting since you are starting off...there are several out there. If I can find my old ones, I will let you know the ones I have. The main thing about scripts is remembering that you have to SHOW your ideas with less words overall. Plus, it is not like a play where you decide things like stage left and the like. It is the bare bones of dialogue and action. Yes, MelMac, has tons of plot bunnies...to quote Bill Maxwell "Can't shut her up about 'em." Not a direct quote, but close. Know the episode? No... but to quote "The Hit Car," "Can you can it with the drivel? It's making my eyes water." (or a variation of it. ) I take it you've also read a couple of my challenges on the Culp site? The ones I've posted here I've used in some form or fashion. (Needless to say all this humor's really helping my sunburn heal faster (seriously, BTW). Guess it's true, laughter's the best medicine. ) |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 12, 2006 21:43:41 GMT -5
Ironic that YOU are telling someone to can the drivel, you know, MelMac. No. I haven't read your challenges on the Culp board...remember that some people are banned from there. I was just agreeing with you about your multiple ideas. The episode was THE BEST DESK SCENARIO. |
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Post by MelMac on Jul 12, 2006 22:19:32 GMT -5
Ironic that YOU are telling someone to can the drivel, you know, MelMac. No. I haven't read your challenges on the Culp board...remember that some people are banned from there. I was just agreeing with you about your multiple ideas. The episode was THE BEST DESK SCENARIO. I was actually responding to your comment there HD. Besides, I haven't posted a real drivel (long-winded) post since I wrote the last move of the first game thread. It's the longest one here at 4,343 words. I do have too many ideas, even got one today on the Pam board. And... it's one I'll admit I didn't think of at the time. Too bad I couldn't use post it on fanfiction.net because it involves a real-life person, something they don't allow. And... for Lauren's devil series, I've thought of at least 30 different tortures, and she's used a lot of them. Even have considered using a couple in some of my stories later on, one was used in a positive way in the earthquake one with Ralph in the suit I've just finished. |
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Post by extreme01 on Jul 13, 2006 9:14:11 GMT -5
As I write this, "Rocket Man" is on the radio right now.Who thinks of Ralph when they hear it? I know that I always do. Anyways, thanks for the input. you guys are great as always, and I'll always appriciate it. Melmac, if you want to help, you got it.we'll talk story ideas soon (after I look through on how to write scripts). I'll be checking back here throughout the day. talk to you all later.
Ted
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Post by MelMac on Jul 13, 2006 11:43:15 GMT -5
Sure, I'd like to. I'm right now in a transition/job application filing phase, but I can help out when I can. Once I get a steady job, I can jump right in and help. I have a rough idea on how to write scripts too, so that might help out some. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 13, 2006 11:51:48 GMT -5
I can help on logistics too as I have probably written the most scripts of people on this site...unless SJC and Frank Lupo are members and I don't know it. |
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Post by extreme01 on Jul 13, 2006 14:01:28 GMT -5
Excellent. looks like I've found my helpers. I might wait for one more to help fill in for MelMac until she can help full-time. Once that happens, where should we conduct this business?? on here, on my Yahoo group page, or via e-mail??whatever is the easiest works for me.
Anyways, I'll be around.
Later
Ted
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Post by MelMac on Jul 13, 2006 14:11:51 GMT -5
Excellent. looks like I've found my helpers. I might wait for one more to help fill in for MelMac until she can help full-time. Once that happens, where should we conduct this business?? on here, on my Yahoo group page, or via e-mail??whatever is the easiest works for me. Anyways, I'll be around. Later Ted Here's the best I'd say, since you've got a couple of loyal posters here on the boards who are willing to help out. |
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Post by extreme01 on Jul 14, 2006 8:51:46 GMT -5
Sounds good. I'll be back here later.
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I am working on half-hour comedy scripts too. I have the experience to put it into a script if you have the basic story outline. I thought you wanted to write it like a story and sell the rights for the movie.
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