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Post by MortimerWest on Jan 4, 2008 22:17:44 GMT -5
Yeah - I thought greenguy was talking about the little fanfilm thingy not the real show.
I probably wouldn't have gotten it anyway - Devil, Heroine and Vanity I could have lived without.
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Post by Videofox on Jan 4, 2008 22:22:59 GMT -5
But, we might have to distinguish between the two only if it gets confusing. Right now, if I see "TGAH" preceeded by Ralph, Pam or Bill, it's the original series "TGAH" with 2008 or Morgan (most of the time), it's the fan film series going on. Just my two cents. Then I guess we'll have to ask whomever is wearing this t-shirt to elaborate: www.tgah.com/store/tgah2008_t002.jpg ;D
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Post by MelMac on Jan 4, 2008 22:37:07 GMT -5
But, we might have to distinguish between the two only if it gets confusing. Right now, if I see "TGAH" preceeded by Ralph, Pam or Bill, it's the original series "TGAH" with 2008 or Morgan (most of the time), it's the fan film series going on. Just my two cents. Then I guess we'll have to ask whomever is wearing this t-shirt to elaborate: www.tgah.com/store/tgah2008_t002.jpg ;D Don't know - if it's specifically for the TGAH 2008 endeavor (which I'm assuming it is because there's no teardrops on the emblem), they should put '08 on it to distinguish it IMHO. They are not the same series either, just some elements from the "GAHeroine" spinoff, which is a failed pilot. Suit's only real tie to the original here as far as I can see, but just it. But, if it's just to be something along the lines of unisex (to make it fit any series) it works out fine. Too young for me to wear, but maybe not for others. That said... wonder how long it'll be up there before it gets challenged for copyright infringement. (You can make them on your own too for probably less than what you'd pay for one complete - like the GAH shirts some of us have. )
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Post by MortimerWest on Jan 4, 2008 23:08:26 GMT -5
but they used a different symbol - so they might be in the clear
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Post by Videofox on Jan 4, 2008 23:23:13 GMT -5
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Post by MelMac on Jan 4, 2008 23:41:48 GMT -5
but they used a different symbol - so they might be in the clear Only way I can see them getting away with it is the heart shape. If you look close though, it's still got the diamond shaped center part. It's still - at least my opinion - possibly something that can be challenged. The ones that are the emblem without teardrops could be though.
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Post by Ms Boku on Jan 4, 2008 23:50:10 GMT -5
They are really going whole hog. I guess they need some way to pay the bills.
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Post by Videofox on Jan 5, 2008 0:00:38 GMT -5
They may end up needing it pay legal fees. If and when a GAH project takes off, these t-shirts and whatever else they plan to sell could become a thorn in the side of the studio when it comes time to design the marketing campaign for a GAH movie, especially if audiences are buying TGAH 2008 t-shirts instead of Disney's because they don't know the difference.
The logo-in-orbit design is very cool, and does look very movie-ish (kudos to the artist!) so I wouldn't be surprised if general viewers mistook it for official movie memorabilia, especially now that those web articles about an upcoming movie have been released.
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Post by Ms Boku on Jan 5, 2008 0:27:22 GMT -5
They may end up needing it pay legal fees. If and when a GAH project takes off, these t-shirts and whatever else they plan to sell could become a thorn in the side of the studio when it comes time to design the marketing campaign for a GAH movie, especially if audiences are buying TGAH 2008 t-shirts instead of Disney's because they don't know the difference. The logo-in-orbit design is very cool, and does look very movie-ish (kudos to the artist!) so I wouldn't be surprised if general viewers mistook it for official movie memorabilia, especially now that those web articles about an upcoming movie have been released. It's all gonna come to a head soon. although I know they won't give away the shirts is there somewhere mentioned about purchasing them? They might be just showing off or trying to generate sales.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 5, 2008 0:34:29 GMT -5
They may end up needing it pay legal fees. If and when a GAH project takes off, these t-shirts and whatever else they plan to sell could become a thorn in the side of the studio when it comes time to design the marketing campaign for a GAH movie, especially if audiences are buying TGAH 2008 t-shirts instead of Disney's because they don't know the difference. The logo-in-orbit design is very cool, and does look very movie-ish (kudos to the artist!) so I wouldn't be surprised if general viewers mistook it for official movie memorabilia, especially now that those web articles about an upcoming movie have been released. It's all gonna come to a head soon. although I know they won't give away the shirts is there somewhere mentioned about purchasing them? They might be just showing off or trying to generate sales. None that I know of, and I think they're showing off examples. Haven't found a cost yet anywhere.
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Post by greenguy on Jan 5, 2008 10:15:17 GMT -5
Hey everyone that visits here is a real fan, or you wouldn't be here. Real fans don't believe Desperado employed men that sold horses for dog food.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 5, 2008 10:59:34 GMT -5
Hey everyone that visits here is a real fan, or you wouldn't be here. Real fans don't believe Desperado employed men that sold horses for dog food. Very true... same goes with the Bill, Pam Davidson, Katt boards as well as GAH Minors and GAH fan fiction forum. (I'd also say something about the other board, but I say TITTSB enough as well to just do that. )
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Post by mmderdekea on Jan 5, 2008 12:55:09 GMT -5
Lets play for a minute and pretend this is going to happen as reported. Would this board go for the idea of having multiple suits around the world, or prefer the idea of Ralph being the only one? It's a big planet. If this is a sequel, rather than a remake, it would remind me of the short-lived "Team Knight Rider" where the world's problems forced FLAG to step up from "one man can make a difference" to "actually, it's gonna take five." (Ten, if you include each of the cars!) Would you be ok with The Greatest Russian Hero? The Greatest Muslim Hero? The Greatest Canadian Bacon? The Greatest Japanese Hero (who could probably morph into a giant robot)? The Greatest Brazilian Hero? The list goes on... I agree with Ms. B---I absolutely only want Ralph and Bill to have suits on Planet Earth. I am particularly fond of the idea that this competent yet obnoxious Fed, and this clumsy high school teacher of delinquents are the only two emissaries from Earth to highly advanced aliens trying to save our planet. If that sort of rare gift is diluted, for me we lose a great deal of the specialness of the two of them and the incredible importance of their work. 'Sides, seems like the two of them is enough work for the aliens to keep up with on their own!! Mona
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Post by MortimerWest on Jan 5, 2008 13:17:08 GMT -5
I will side with the idea that the suit is bound to Earth missions only - meaning I could never see Ralph taking off for Mars or something. To me, that would push the relatable or real world setting the show had with it's audience. Saying that, I also think the idea of other teams in different hemispheres having a suit of their own is a good one. There cannot be only one suit in California is the aliens truly want to save the entire world - that makes no sense.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 5, 2008 13:33:07 GMT -5
It does make you wonder if there might be a total of 12 people who help out in saving the world - a pair for each continent (almost said 14, but we'd have to have a team of penguins in Antartica. ) Still, if a movie were to really come out, I'd like it to be a team a lot like Ralph and Bill. Not them in particular necessarily (though that'd be good if they did something like Pixar so Katt and Culp could still be a team), but a team that is just opposite, but still similar enough to make the teamship work long term. That was a failure I think with Holly and Bill - they were too extreme to really work. I didn't see enough of a similarity to where the teamship would work well.
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Post by Videofox on Jan 5, 2008 13:42:10 GMT -5
That also would explain something in another thread we were talking about, regarding the "Greatest Mexican Hero" El Caballero Rojo. We formulated the idea that it might have been JJ Beck that inspired someone to create the comic book, but what if it was a Mexican with a suit? Correct me if I'm wrong, Moritimer, but I believe it was your script that had two suits...a new hero is chosen to stop his predecessor that went bad. If that's the case, I would be curious to know how the bad guy managed to hold on to his suit when the greenguys were so easily able to take JJ's away from him. What did he do to one-up the greenguys?? It always seemed unlikely to me that the aliens would grant someone earthly powers without possessing the ability to neutralize them, so I definitely want to know how he pulls it off. (Of course, I wouldn't expect a writer to give away a plot point like that away if there's a chance that script could be filmed, but I'm still curious!) I had come up with a similar scenario as a plot bunny for my own contemporary GAH version, but it involved some heavy-handed Star Trek-type science fiction that allowed a previous hero (from the twenty-year gap between JJ and Ralph) to hold on to his suit after he was fired. Just wondering how many different ways he might have accomplished that.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 5, 2008 14:00:10 GMT -5
It's an interesting scenario when two suits are involved. Only time I've used it is when the other wearer's a green guy. But, there could be many ways to hide the suit from teh green guys, but I don't want to give away all of them that I know of.
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Post by MortimerWest on Jan 5, 2008 14:12:13 GMT -5
agreed - the movie should focus only on our main characters and not the grand design - save that for the sequels.
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Post by MST3Claye on Jan 5, 2008 14:33:00 GMT -5
But, we might have to distinguish between the two only if it gets confusing. Right now, if I see "TGAH" preceeded by Ralph, Pam or Bill, it's the original series "TGAH" with 2008 or Morgan (most of the time), it's the fan film series going on. Just my two cents. Then I guess we'll have to ask whomever is wearing this t-shirt to elaborate: www.tgah.com/store/tgah2008_t002.jpg ;D I'm glad I don't have to worry about that when wearing my GAH hat I got off of ebay last year. Has the teardrops and everything, and it's the rounded logo. Though you can't see the three notches in the outside black ring unless you really look hard, because it's black on black. They didn't outline it with white or anything. I'd go with the heart logo "I love TGAH" shirt they've got going, though I'd add "2008" to it. The earth logo is definitely confusing and would make people think that something legit (and I use legit as in Disney, Cannell, etc) is happening. Which is when I first read the first few posts on the whole TGAH 2008 and went to the site I thought something WAS set in motion, like everyone else did. If they're going without the teardrops, that is pretty much the best way to do it and keep away from possible legalities.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 5, 2008 14:36:12 GMT -5
But, we might have to distinguish between the two only if it gets confusing. Right now, if I see "TGAH" preceeded by Ralph, Pam or Bill, it's the original series "TGAH" with 2008 or Morgan (most of the time), it's the fan film series going on. Just my two cents. Then I guess we'll have to ask whomever is wearing this t-shirt to elaborate: www.tgah.com/store/tgah2008_t002.jpg ;D On closer look at this pic - it looks like the design is photoshopped onto the model's shirt. The black lines are too sharp and dark compared to the collar and sleeve trim. My guess is this is definitely a test dummy drawing only. I do have to respectfully disagree with you on the teardrop issue bbeing a way to avoid copyright issues, Claye. People do sue if there's any type of design out and about similar to theirs. Ex. the people who made Pokemon figures sued those who were doing knockoffs, even if there was the tiniest bit of difference to try and avoid copyright issues. Cannell would have a case if he wanted to sue. Now, I know of one business that paid money to use a design another group had (Conoco used the YMCA triangle for years before deciding to stop paying them for it and going to the rounded logo), but the costs there are very high and have to constantly be renewed. So, who knows.
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