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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 2, 2007 18:59:48 GMT -5
I have agreed for a long time...I am sure my post is around...that Holly was not upset with it ruining her life. I think that is the overaching reason why it bombed...it lost that charcter dramedy.
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Post by mmderdekea on Jul 29, 2007 11:00:34 GMT -5
HD--Okay, respecting your thread I moved my anti-GAHeroine post here.
I can't fathom why anyone SHOULD consider it canon. It was a failed pilot, not even a whole show. It was: 1. Disparaging to Ralph 2. Disparaging to Bill (except regarding the intimation that he has his own office and can do what he wishes without Carlisle in his face). 3. Gave us Annoying Woman as "hero", who is so self-involved she cannot even apologize when she lands on someone (Bill) and is so egotistical she cannot even recognize the value of Bill's expertise. Bill and Ralph SAVED THE WORLD several times, not just the whales. She should have shut up and listened to Bill, learned about previous cases, and so forth. She should have RESPECTED him and what he and Ralph did together. 4. Gave us blatant cartoon parody scenes like Holly's muscles expanding to rip open her clothes--HUH? That was completely ludicrous! 5. Gave us the improbable yet touching "good-bye" scene, whereby we are expected to think that the Real Trio simply ends their best friendship and, what, will never hang out again together? That makes no sense. Why wouldn't they continue to hang out after the depth of their affection for each other was so permanently established? Remember, Bill and Ralph went fishing together outside of suit use; they were best friends. They had saved each others' lives; they had shared together what potentially no one else on Earth at that time had shared. To think they'd just hug and never see each other again is very faulty.
GAHeroine was so anti-GAH I must admit I'm astounded that anyone would see it as canon; I mean, if you like ANY character in GAH, how can you overall like GAHeroine and wish to consider it canon? For Jo and Me and Melmac, all of us who write fanfiction, I suppose maybe it's easier for us, with our imaginations, to create whole new ideas in our heads that work much better for the continuity of the series and the, at some point, ending of Bill and Ralph's partnership than GAHerione. Thus, this failed pilot is meaningless to us.
Mona
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 29, 2007 21:45:30 GMT -5
I resent that...Pam acted perfectly normal.
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Post by MelMac on Jul 29, 2007 22:55:57 GMT -5
I resent that...Pam acted perfectly normal. Pam was, but she was also underused. Toward the end of the series Pam had a larger role in the series - suit scenarios and otherwise. There's just so much they did wrong here that it's not quite true to GAH. Still think the suit itself is also a reason why it sucked: - It's shiny - both on Ralph and Holly. The suit's charm is that it looks like it should be pajamas. I don't know of many pajama outfits (save some that Jo would say "Take it to the smut board") that are shiny. It's also one of the few times I even understand why Katt hated the suit.
- The now one-piece version on Holly. The two-piece version would work well on either gender, so why bother to change it? If you wanted to vary it, make the tunic longer so it appeared to be a skirt on Holly. Which leads me to the next part:
- The 3/4 length sleeves. This is a HUGE violator of the whole premise of the show itself. The powers were in the suit, not person. As we learn in the series that the wearer can be knocked unconscious because his/her head's not protected adequately, going by this, Holly could break her arm, and shouldn't be able to bend steel as adequately as if the suit reached her wrists. Therefore, the notion that the powers are in the suit itself are essentially ruined.
The fight at the bar was cartoony from start to finish. Holly's muscle buldging, ALL her clothes ripping off to reveal the suit when the guy grabs the jacket top (though I can see her wearing a backless shirt with a jacket if she's wearing the suit underneath), the moose head falling on the guy, the spinning on the pool table... just goes on and on. The training was bad overall just because most of that stuff wasn't really useful as far as suit scenarios. I don't know of many things that Holly would've used baseball for or football. Really the only things that were useful were jumping over the football goal crossbar (as Ralph jumped over the gate in "O:SS"), and the tackle dummy as you might need to shove something out of the way with your shoulder/ram through a wall. But two out of 10 or 15 things isn't a whole lot. And, Holly's flight doesn't even look like she's flying. She looks like she's bobbing up and down on a string. Of course, that's Mary Ellen Stuart not knowing how to use Magicam properly, but they could've done that better than they did. I could go on about Holly being able to use all the suit's powers properly (the ones Ralph taught her at least), but that'd max out this post. Overall, I still say they should've waited a few years until Connie and Katt were available and they could've either brought it back properly or do a proper handover - male or female wearer. Given that Katt did try to get them to do a reunion movie in 1993, I think it'd been possible. But, excluding the trio's performances (which were good, albeit out of character based on the series), we get a half-hearted attempt at a spinoff IMHO.
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Post by MelMac on Jul 31, 2007 23:02:48 GMT -5
Another reason why I think this sucked was that things felt so convoluted to fit the time allowed and how to work out issues such as Ralph and Pam. The whole "ego trip" is one of the lamest reasons to give up the suit. Ralph did have an ego, but it would never get this extreme without Pam or Bill knocking some sense into him - possibly literally. Something more honorable would've left a better taste in people's mouths and might've made it a bit more palpable that Holly was his successor. ------------------------------------- IMO, Bill being Holly's partner might have been a last minute addition/change to the script, as though he was made her partner because Culp was available. This is not Culp's fault, as he's great as Bill (and one of the few reasons worth watching the spinoff attempt), but it just felt forced in. This opinion is based on this scene from the ship (bold my emphasis): Ralph: What about Bill? Greenguys: Do you think that we should let Mr. Maxwell retain his memories as well? (Goes on about what makes a good wearer with R&P concluding "Definitely not Bill.") Greenguys (roughly): Mr. Maxwell was always meant to be more in the mediator role. I see no reason why he can't be allowed to continue in that serviceIt went from erasing Bill's memory of his time with Ralph to suddenly making him the new wearer's partner with no real explanation, which is very odd - and feels convoluted to me. The only way we'd know for sure though is someone reading the script, and only person I know of who has one is Lauren. ---------------------------------------- The greenguys' simple "You simply hand over the suit to someone else" to make people forget is lame and feels like it was written to get Ralph out of the picture as fast as possible. It's just lame because here you have a race that brings dead people to life to give warnings, can break controls of helicopters, effortlessly knock back a suit wearer while their flying - burning out the car's circuitry in the process, etc. Going by those things, they should effortlessly be able to erase everyone's memories about the suit, of course AFTER Ralph experiences what would happen if he did let that prestige go to his head again. ------------------------------- Holly suddenly knowing the powers and perfectly just seems forced. Something should go wrong, such as a side effect of the suit's powers, or fewer powers at first. Even with her shock at finding out about holographs seemed to quickly go into the "Oh wow" type mode. It's also odd because it's a suprise to her when she picks up the card, yet in the goodbye scene Ralph mentions he taught her everything he knows, which would include holographs. It's annoying as even with the first GAH ep, Ralph did learn the powers slowly. Simply put, they should've just waited until the Katt and Sellecca were available and then did a reunion movie - or did a spinoff with a handover in the proper way and where the characters were not caricatures.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Aug 2, 2007 11:22:46 GMT -5
If they could have just cast SOMEONE who could act their way out of a paper bag - the actress they chose was SOOOOO terrible. I mean what exactly 'won' the part for her? The fact that had measurements and a pulse???
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Post by MelMac on Aug 2, 2007 11:47:46 GMT -5
If they could have just cast SOMEONE who could act their way out of a paper bag - the actress they chose was SOOOOO terrible. I mean what exactly 'won' the part for her? The fact that had measurements and a pulse??? You know, I think so. They still do it when they cast some of these actresses in movies and such (i.e. Paris Hilton, who I feel can't act her way out of a paper bag either).
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 2, 2007 12:33:07 GMT -5
If they could have just cast SOMEONE who could act their way out of a paper bag - the actress they chose was SOOOOO terrible. I mean what exactly 'won' the part for her? The fact that had measurements and a pulse??? Why not? It works in porn.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 2, 2007 12:38:13 GMT -5
If they could have just cast SOMEONE who could act their way out of a paper bag - the actress they chose was SOOOOO terrible. I mean what exactly 'won' the part for her? The fact that had measurements and a pulse??? Why not? It works in porn. You're right, and when I first read "act their way out of a paper bag" and pulse/measurements, I thought.... uh... well.
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Post by mmderdekea on Aug 2, 2007 14:21:49 GMT -5
Another thing about GAHeroine I completely disliked and felt was ludicrous was having Ralph find someone to give the suit to. First off, it took around 20 years for the green guys to find two more Earthlings they trusted with the suit--Ralph and Bill. I think they spent some long time watching them and vetting them and deciding that they were the two best men.
To have Ralph just walk around handing the suit off to someone he hardly knows, outside from watching her in some brief do-gooder tendencies, is very irresponsible to me. I mean, I hand out money to homeless people, and do home visits for patients if need be, and give money to charity, but does that mean I can be entrusted with the powers of the suit? After all, Holly winds up to be very self-involved, self-righteous, know it all, and even egotistical. She blunders into her first assignment, causing a bar fight that otherwise would probably not needed to happen, putting Bill at serious risk of injury. Luckily, that guy is TOUGH.
I would think the green guys would take it upon themselves to spend some littlel time finding the right human, search the human's psyche for correctness, before activating the suit for them. But, this gets back to the fact that they chose Ralph, who in GAHeroine turned into a fame-crazed jackass, IMO, so maybe we are to assume that the green guys couldn't trust themselves to chose the right human, having blown it with JJ Beck and Ralph. Thus, go on, let Ralph--one of the (apparently, based on GAHeroine) eventual poor choices of the green guys'--chose someone. Huh?
All in all, GAHeroine makes Ralph and the green guys and the whole suit choice scenario look bad, inefficient and irresponsible. Poor Bill has a right to be a little upset being left out of the decision process. He's the one that DID NOT go bad!!! He COULD have ridden to fame like Ralph, outing himself as the Fed who was involved in working with Ralph. In fact, isn't it likely that Ralph saved the country and the President because FBI agent Bill put the scenario of danger together and instructed Ralph how to do the saving? Very likely so! But, no, Bill kept his anonymity and stayed behind the scenes and kept his ego out of everything. Yet, he's not allowed to chose HIS next partner!!!
Arg!
Mona
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Post by MelMac on Aug 2, 2007 22:46:51 GMT -5
One thing I also didn't like was that IMO, based on the way this was filmed, it appears that Bill didn't give a damn about getting Ralph to go back on the straight and narrow. I have a feeling there's a scene where Bill tries to reason with Ralph that wasn't put on film, but the way it's filmed makes it appear as such.
It looks like left Ralph high and dry, hiding out so he didn't get recognized and it cost him his job at the FBI (though the opposite mentioned above - the positive - could've happened too). Bill would talk sense to the kid - possibly punch his lights out in a worst case scenario, but here it appears he just up and leaves him. That's not Bill at all.
Holly is annoying too because she's clearly the instigator in the bar fight. Going by the green guy's fickle attitudes in "Heroine," Holly should've been stripped of the suit because a. she instigated the fight for no real reason, b. kept it going and had fun after starting the fight in the first place and c. preens herself after the fight, once again after putting Bill's health in danger for no real reason.
You know, while I could get literal at times with this, there's just so many comments I could make about this that I'm tempted to do a MST3K of this ep. There's just so many things I could joke ... comment about here - costuming, scenery, acting - that it'd be fun to do. It just was a bad ep overall, and just wish they had waited instead of going ahead with the idea. Be it a better developed new team or more money and wait until Katt and Connie were available, just about anything would've been better.
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Post by mmderdekea on Aug 3, 2007 9:00:01 GMT -5
Mel,
I think it's a little ridiculous to extrapolate and judge characters about scenes we make up in our own heads, such as Mel's assertion that Bill left Ralph out on his own, and that Bill was protecting himself instead of helping Ralph. HUH???
First off, Ralph is an adult and made his own choices; Bill isn't his father, just his best friend and partner. Ralph had a defined sense of self and made decisions which he was unwilling to change at times, which is fine. We like characters with a backbone. However, in GAHeroine, if Ralph's loving WIFE couldn't stop Ralph's ego, and we do see her try to and fail, it's kind of unfair to slam Bill for not even attempting to, when there was NO scene inferring he did or didn't. I mean, one could make up all sorts of unwritten, unfilmed scenes--how about I think it was bad in GAHeroine when Ralph decided to use his suit to steal money, in unwritten and unfilmed scenes, which he felt he now deserved for previously saving the world for free; and thought it was disloyal of Pam to begin cheating on a hard to get along with Ralph with another lawyer at her firm--but that isn't a good way to analyze any TV show. We shouldn't blame characters for what they did or didn't do when there are no scenes in the show related in any way to our made up opinions.
Mona
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Post by MelMac on Aug 3, 2007 12:17:07 GMT -5
Mel, I think it's a little ridiculous to extrapolate and judge characters about scenes we make up in our own heads, such as Mel's assertion that Bill left Ralph out on his own, and that Bill was protecting himself instead of helping Ralph. HUH??? First off, Ralph is an adult and made his own choices; Bill isn't his father, just his best friend and partner. Ralph had a defined sense of self and made decisions which he was unwilling to change at times, which is fine. We like characters with a backbone. However, in GAHeroine, if Ralph's loving WIFE couldn't stop Ralph's ego, and we do see her try to and fail, it's kind of unfair to slam Bill for not even attempting to, when there was NO scene inferring he did or didn't. I mean, one could make up all sorts of unwritten, unfilmed scenes--how about I think it was bad in GAHeroine when Ralph decided to use his suit to steal money, in unwritten and unfilmed scenes, which he felt he now deserved for previously saving the world for free; and thought it was disloyal of Pam to begin cheating on a hard to get along with Ralph with another lawyer at her firm--but that isn't a good way to analyze any TV show. We shouldn't blame characters for what they did or didn't do when there are no scenes in the show related in any way to our made up opinions. Mona Mona, You're right, there is no scene - that was filmed - inferring one way or the other. Please read closer to what I post. I said IMO as the way it's filmed makes Bill look bad as well as Pam. Prior to what I think you're referring to as my assumption, I mention clearly in my previous post "I have a feeling there's a scene (though I admit I should've said "in the script") where Bill tries to reason with Ralph that wasn't put on film[/color]," and said that "but the way it's filmed makes it appear as such (Bill leaving Ralph high and dry/giving up on Ralph)." I didn't say that he would've or did leave Ralph to keep his job, only that it felt and appeared that way because of the way it was filmed, hence another reason why it sucked. I feel there's a scene chopped out that was vital, as Bill wouldn't do that - it's not him. As such, watching it without that scene, I feel as though Bill gave up, but we all know that's not him anymore than Ralph would go to this extreme in ego - or that the green guys would seriously let Ralph choose his successor. Heck, even in my spinoff, Ralph does not choose Aidan to wear the suit - the suit (and green guys) did. As I said, Bill'd at least attempt to talk sense into Ralph, as Pam did, and I feel that he would've gotten through to Ralph if the writers paid attention to the series and the characters. I find it odd that he wouldn't have interfered and tried to stop Ralph, because they're a team - and as such the ep sucked for it. Now, whether Ralph would've listened or not, that's another story since, as you said, it was his choice. Watching it, however, it appears that clearly if Pam was not getting him on the straight and narrow, it'd probably been for naught with Bill as well. Shame they chose to film the lame training sequence over this important detail - because it IMO makes all three of them look bad. It's been shown that Ralph uses the suit for monetary gain here in "GAHeroine" as a. He appears in "SNL," which you get paid handsomely for (but even if it were $5, it'd still be payment using the suit) and b. Pam even mentions Ralph using it for endorsements, etc. - basically corruption as the suit's supposed to be used for the good of the world, not self. Sure, maybe it's not sticking up a bank, as Ralph doesn't want to go to jail, but it's unethical monetary gain using the suit. While I disagree with how Ralph was treated, I cannot deny this is how he was written in "GAHeroine." We've both been in the disagreement about Bill and Ralph (and Culp and Katt) for a long time, so I know where your comment comes from. I'm not judging Bill based up on a made up scenario - I'm making an opinion that the story feels as though Bill left Ralph because of the way it was filmed - period. I also feel that a scene was written but cut out because of the greenguys mentioning Pam and Bill possibly losing their memories (I say Pam because the green guys discuss the issue on the ship). I don't think that either would've done anything to have had their memories erased, as I feel Ralph shouldn't have been threatened with being stripped of the suit in "Vanity," unless there was something in the script we didn't see happen.
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Post by mmderdekea on Aug 3, 2007 21:59:44 GMT -5
Funny! My inference is that Bill spoke to Ralph trying to turn him around until Bill was blue in the face and Ralph just completely ignored him. Odd how scenes that don't exist can be inferred in such opposite ways! Mona
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Post by MelMac on Aug 3, 2007 22:45:21 GMT -5
Funny! My inference is that Bill spoke to Ralph trying to turn him around until Bill was blue in the face and Ralph just completely ignored him. Odd how scenes that don't exist can be inferred in such opposite ways! Mona That's what I was trying to get across, but apparently my writing's still muddled. I mention this in the second go as well about feeling that Bill would try to talk sense into Ralph about this scenario - and I feel that he would've gotten through to Ralph if the writers paid attention to the series and the characters. Bill would've have tried, but based on Ralph's choice, didn't work. Needless to say, it's a reason why it sucks - Ralph's out of character, taking out a scene like this (which I still feel was probably written, just not filmed) over a bad training sequence hurts Bill some, the whole shebang. I disagree a scene concerning Bill speaking to Ralph about this change of events doesn't exist, however, even if in written form. Reading a few scripts that made it to film/air, there's always scenes that are missing or altered. A great example is the 200MPH fastball one in the second season collection - though I admit it's a bit of a long read. If there isn't, they completely missed the mark on both characters, though admittedly it's a given with Ralph. Lauren, since you have a script, do you know if there was a scene where Bill tries to reason with Ralph about using the suit for gain or elsewise? That can help clear some of this out a lot. The attempt was poorly executed and just flat out sucks. If they want to try a female wearer again... ask someone who knows how to write one in the suit that's more than superficial, which I feel Babs Greyhosky did. It could've and can be done, but it just didn't work here.
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 3, 2007 22:48:37 GMT -5
It sucked because they were trying to mess up a chemistry that was fine on it's own. They wrote Ralph out of character. we have proof that from fastball and belly buster. Ralph was so worried about being found out plus even when he was on the Merv show he may have had a slight ego but he pretty much was in check. Now he could've taken the suit and went pro baseball but he didn't. I just don't feel that he would've let himself get that far out of control. Esp with Bill there. They, for the most part keep each other in check.
It's like if someone else were to paint the original masterpieces as something that they weren't. All of sudden the Mona Lisa is a man. Hey the ninja turtles were great let's have some ninja pigs or chipmunks. Let's put salt in our coffee instead of sugar. It just doesn't work. Some things you just can't mess with the original. and if you haven't read my story Time Heals you should.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 3, 2007 23:00:50 GMT -5
It sucked because they were trying to mess up a chemistry that was fine on it's own. They wrote Ralph out of character. we have proof that from fastball and belly buster. Ralph was so worried about being found out plus even when he was on the Merv show he may have had a slight ego but he pretty much was in check. Now he could've taken the suit and went pro baseball but he didn't. I just don't feel that he would've let himself get that far out of control. Esp with Bill there. They, for the most part keep each other in check. It's like if someone else were to paint the original masterpieces as something that they weren't. All of sudden the Mona Lisa is a man. Hey the ninja turtles were great let's have some ninja pigs or chipmunks. Let's put salt in our coffee instead of sugar. It just doesn't work. Some things you just can't mess with the original. and if you haven't read my story Time Heals you should. Exactly, don't switch up the team - either keep them in the suit or if you do a handover (after many successful years of service) give it to a completely new team. It's like you don't just put too much salt in a peanut butter cookie recipe because it sounds good (or misread a recipe that was successful and ruin it). All it does is make something you have to choke down - and leaves a bad taste in your mouth.
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 4, 2007 8:06:09 GMT -5
It sucked because they were trying to mess up a chemistry that was fine on it's own. They wrote Ralph out of character. we have proof that from fastball and belly buster. Ralph was so worried about being found out plus even when he was on the Merv show he may have had a slight ego but he pretty much was in check. Now he could've taken the suit and went pro baseball but he didn't. I just don't feel that he would've let himself get that far out of control. Esp with Bill there. They, for the most part keep each other in check. It's like if someone else were to paint the original masterpieces as something that they weren't. All of sudden the Mona Lisa is a man. Hey the ninja turtles were great let's have some ninja pigs or chipmunks. Let's put salt in our coffee instead of sugar. It just doesn't work. Some things you just can't mess with the original. and if you haven't read my story Time Heals you should. Exactly, don't switch up the team - either keep them in the suit or if you do a handover (after many successful years of service) give it to a completely new team. It's like you don't just put too much salt in a peanut butter cookie recipe because it sounds good (or misread a recipe that was successful and ruin it). All it does is make something you have to choke down - and leaves a bad taste in your mouth. As fonxie would say.."Exact-a-mundo!"
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Post by helane4bill on Aug 4, 2007 9:17:28 GMT -5
Hi:
I have not read the entire thread, but it seems to me that (looking at the reality)...............they had to get Ralph out of there..............he was gone, the suit could no longer be his, as Katt (in real life) was not going to appear anymore. Therefore, the writers had to come up with a way to get Ralph and Pam out of the scenario. They choose to make Ralph's ego so big that the green guys were forced to take the suit away from him. Yes, if it were true to their characters, Ralph's ego would not have gone so out of whack and Bill would have been able to talk him out of getting too big for his britches, if he were to do so. BUT, the issue is.......they could not be true to their characters, because Ralph and Pam had to go. Holly had to be brought in. That was the new show. A woman instead of a man in the suit. The pilot was a test run, not even a full episode. Unfortunately, I don't think the writers cared how they got Ralph out of the picture, they just had to.
We might not agree with how they wrote it, but that's how it happened. Period. I don't think there is any point in going overboard with trying to figure out "why". It was written. It was done.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 4, 2007 9:45:12 GMT -5
Hi: I have not read the entire thread, but it seems to me that (looking at the reality)...............they had to get Ralph out of there..............he was gone, the suit could no longer be his, as Katt (in real life) was not going to appear anymore. Therefore, the writers had to come up with a way to get Ralph and Pam out of the scenario. They choose to make Ralph's ego so big that the green guys were forced to take the suit away from him. Yes, if it were true to their characters, Ralph's ego would not have gone so out of whack and Bill would have been able to talk him out of getting too big for his britches, if he were to do so. BUT, the issue is.......they could not be true to their characters, because Ralph and Pam had to go. Holly had to be brought in. That was the new show. A woman instead of a man in the suit. The pilot was a test run, not even a full episode. Unfortunately, I don't think the writers cared how they got Ralph out of the picture, they just had to. We might not agree with how they wrote it, but that's how it happened. Period. I don't think there is any point in going overboard with trying to figure out "why". It was written. It was done. Part of this thread is to thrash out why the episode sucked, and that's why we rant. Even if it was filmed, there's so many reasons why this didn't work, and people sometimes have to air it out. I very strongly, but respectfully disagree with the notion that "they could not be true to their characters, because Ralph and Pam had to go." While I know Katt wasn't going to be able to return for this, there were so many ways they could've had him hand over the suit. They could've had it where Ralph chose to leave, that he and Pam were having kids and he didn't want to risk harming Pam or the kid because some bad guys wanted to hurt him, he could've been injured in a wreck without the suit on that could've affected him long term (i.e. a head injury that gave him epilepsy), he could just want to retire, etc. The point is, regardless of how Katt felt about the suit, there were better ways of handling his departure as well as Pam's. What gets me a lot around here when people talk about Katt is that they go with the correlation of Katt hates suit::Katt hates the role. He mentions on the DVD quite clearly he found the role intriguing and hated what happened to the show when the producers/ABC wanted them to chase monsters. The only things I've ever heard him complain about with the series are the suit and the time the wire cable snapped. The latter I can totally understand, given his description of Magicam, which was cement walls and floors. Point is, IMO what they did to his character for this episode to have him hand over the suit was an insult to Katt's portrayal of Ralph. No one deserves to have a departure that's out of character... no one. Even Larry Linville (who I liked on and off camera) got a better sendoff in "M*A*S*H," as Frank Burns' departure was done in a humorous way compared to the book. If you read the book (though this happens in the movie), Burns gets removed from the army for attacking Pierce, who cries out that Burns is trying to rape him (that Burns is homosexual). He gets removed in a straightjacket because of it. Series, he's removed to a psych ward because he stalks Houlihan after she's married and winds up going after a top ranking officer and his wife. When I watch this too, at times I just feel things were forced into the ep to try and make it work. There were ways to have a better handover, Ralph choosing his successor despite the fact that he was removed for having an ego, as what's to say he wouldn't choose someone with the same exact problem - and she does to a point based on not apologizing to Bill after the crash, the training sequence, etc. Given that Katt in 1993 wanted to do a reunion movie and tried to push it, I think he might've been disappointed about the attempt, and given that 7 years had past from the disasterous attempt here, I think he seriously wanted to try again. Now, would that have been a handover to a new heroine or him getting back the suit from Holly and wearing the suit for the reunion - I don't know. Point is, I think if he hated the role entirely, he and Connie (who he had discussed the idea with) wouldn't have tried to get it back.
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