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Post by RalphsJammies on Mar 17, 2005 15:44:52 GMT -5
Hey everyone. I am new here and I need some advice.
I was a huge fan of "The Greatest American Hero" as a kid, but I did not keep up on it like many of you have. But now that it is on DVD I am thrilled! I recently got the Season 1 set and have been enjoying it immeasurably.
But I can't decide on one thing... I have never seen (or until recently even heard of) "The Greatest American Heroine." Should I watch it?
From what I have read on these boards, most fans seem to dislike it and it even seems to detract from the glory of GAH. On the other hand, it gives some closure to the series.
I can't decide whether to watch it and take my chances as to how it might taint the rest of GAH or if I should ignore it and just cherish my beloved show as I remember it.
For those of you who have seen it, what do you think?
Should I watch it or not?
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Post by Lupin on Mar 17, 2005 16:59:25 GMT -5
Should I watch it or not? Sheakespeare, eh? Welcome RalphsJammies. Well, I asked myself the same question. I had seen all the episodes and I was mentally prepared to watch this one too, convincing myself that this is just a "parody" episode, it never happened: I certainly didn't want to spoil my good memories with that. For some time I had this episode sitting there (I am not talking DVDs, it's from tapes) and never wanted to watch it but I thought that it contains some rare un-aired footage I have to see, whether it's good or not. I picked a lousy Sunday afternoon to watch it. Knowing that an heroine would take over the suit was already a big shock for me so watching the episode did not make much of a difference in that sense. It has a very sad moment in it when they say goodbye to each other  but it is part of the best scene in the whole episode. If I were you I would watch it for last, I mean after the end of the 3rd series. |
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Post by ThatGirl on Mar 17, 2005 19:02:26 GMT -5
I don't think it ruins the greatness of the show. It's just stupid. Watch it, and then chalk it up to network stupidity. I consider it a failed script, and not the actual show.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 18, 2005 12:59:36 GMT -5
Watch it, definitely. But the advise to watch it at the very end (after all season three episodes) is wise. You shouldn't miss it though, as it IS part of G.A.H. history and, to me, worth it for the goodbye scene alone.
-Frank
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Post by The J-Man on Mar 18, 2005 13:15:10 GMT -5
Besides, like that slag in that movie says: how do you know you don't like it, if you haven't tried it?
And before anyone says anything, some of my best friends are slags...
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Post by scenario on Mar 18, 2005 19:18:07 GMT -5
^Slags, as in the racial term used to describe the Newcomers in the Alien Nation franchise? Boy that brings back memories, I may just go look that movie/show up again. Those splotches the aliens had on their head used to gross me out though. Oh and go ahead and watch GAHeroine RalphsJammies. Come back and tell us what you think of it.  -scenario- |
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Post by mom2jared on Mar 18, 2005 20:36:40 GMT -5
I would just watch the first hour and then turn it off, just until the goodbye scene. I never could stand to watch the rest.
Just my 2 cents!!!
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Post by RalphsJammies on Mar 28, 2005 15:22:47 GMT -5
Well, I got to the end of my Season 1 episodes and I needed more. So I finally watched "Greatest American Heroine."
You know what? I really didn't think it was all that bad.
<crouches down to avoid all the object being thrown>
Ok, I'll admit Holly was annoying, and I thought it was a little out of character for Ralph to act the way he did once he was made public as the GAH. But I liked the potential possibilities of a pairing of Maxwell and Holly.
They would never be the same (or probably as good) as the relationship Maxwell had with Ralph and Pam, but their was room for some great comedic head-butting with Holly. If the show had been picked up, I definitely would have tuned in again.
Yes, many scenes were painful to watch, but over all I was expecting worse. I was expecting a lot worse. And if nothing else, the closure the episode gave me about whatever happened to Ralph was finally answered.
So I am glad I watched it. And I will probably watch it again the next time I am finishing up disk 3 of Season 1.
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Post by ThatGirl on Mar 28, 2005 19:21:10 GMT -5
LOL! I wouldn't throw anything at you...there's no accounting for taste! ;D  |
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Mar 31, 2005 16:21:55 GMT -5
[glow=red,2,900]"We made it work... like a real team..."[/glow]  |
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Apr 4, 2008 15:13:05 GMT -5
DAMN this scene still gets to me...
Just watched it again.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Apr 4, 2008 15:51:57 GMT -5
Did you just watch that scene or the whole episode?  |
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Post by Ms Boku on Apr 4, 2008 19:26:16 GMT -5
I only know of one show and that's the Greatest American Hero.
There is no Greatest american heroine. Does not exist.
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Post by mmderdekea on Apr 4, 2008 20:24:41 GMT -5
Everyone is saying how the "good-bye" scene gets to them, but do we really think that after, say, 5-6 years of working together, saving each others lives, playing together, hanging out together, sharing so much together, that suddenly Bill, Ralph and Pam would complete sever their relationships? I can't believe it!
That that was intimated in GAHeroine may the show even more annoying to me and it was annoying enough to begin with. I have to agree that this is a failed script and by no means part of the Canon.
Mona
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Post by Ms Boku on Apr 4, 2008 21:03:20 GMT -5
Everyone is saying how the "good-bye" scene gets to them, but do we really think that after, say, 5-6 years of working together, saving each others lives, playing together, hanging out together, sharing so much together, that suddenly Bill, Ralph and Pam would complete sever their relationships? I can't believe it! That that was intimated in GAHeroine may the show even more annoying to me and it was annoying enough to begin with. I have to agree that this is a failed script and by no means part of the Canon. Mona Here here!! I mean it was totally out of character. but as WK said in the interview when I saw I saw him, he said he was ashed to do 3 more years but he was doing another tv show at the time. Perry Mason I think. So it's not like he wasn't asked. I say no canon! |
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Post by jopierce on Apr 4, 2008 21:21:07 GMT -5
I agree with Mona. Completely out of character.
This is AWFUL! AWFUL!
AWFUL I SAY!
HD: Jo, why don't you tell us how you really feel?
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Post by MelMac on Apr 4, 2008 21:32:25 GMT -5
Everyone is saying how the "good-bye" scene gets to them, but do we really think that after, say, 5-6 years of working together, saving each others lives, playing together, hanging out together, sharing so much together, that suddenly Bill, Ralph and Pam would complete sever their relationships? I can't believe it! That that was intimated in GAHeroine may the show even more annoying to me and it was annoying enough to begin with. I have to agree that this is a failed script and by no means part of the Canon. Mona Here here!! I mean it was totally out of character. but as WK said in the interview when I saw I saw him, he said he was ashed to do 3 more years but he was doing another tv show at the time. Perry Mason I think. So it's not like he wasn't asked. I say no canon! It was "Perry Mason," and given the fact that the new episodes of "GAH" would've fallen under more restrictions (watershed rules I think, kinda like in "Doctor Who"), I can understand that reason. Another good reason - for Katt as an actor - to stay in "Perry Mason" was that it was a well-known and well-loved series, so people would watch his acting and he could have another strong piece of work in his portfolio. That in turn also would help him stay away from being stereotyped as just Ralph Hinkley - superhero like so many other superhero actors. While I agree with you on the reason as far as the goodbyes - as it does imply as such - I do agree that it's really the only good part of the episode because you can feel the emotions of the characters. Even though I would've preferred it not happen at all, I could've seen that farewell scene happen in an episode of the 43 episodes of "GAH." In the rest of "GAHeroine" though, the rest seems totally comical and not true "GAH." Of course, there will be others who argue canon, some because it has aired in syndication, and - at least IMHO - some because if it isn't considered such their endeavor cannot considered canon ("TGAH 2008"), but I do agree, overall, "GAHeroine" is not canon. It feels more of an AU - meaning, while I don't see it as official canon because it wasn't aired, it could've happened in the realm of "GAH" if, say the series had run for five years and then Katt wanted to quit. They could've decided either way the character of Ralph was going to leave in this manner, so I do see a point there. Personally, though, I feel the reason was not good (I would preferred a better reason for Ralph to leave), as it didn't ring true. One plus Katt had over Ardal O'Hanlon on "My Hero" at least they did try to continue the series with a new wearer, not try and replace him with another actor who supposedly morphed into the same person. I know the Doctor is constantly played by other actors; however, he was not married - George was - so it really made it uncomfortable to watch. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Apr 4, 2008 21:37:33 GMT -5
I agree with Mona. Completely out of character.
This is AWFUL! AWFUL!
AWFUL I SAY!
HD: Jo, why don't you tell us how you really feel? Actually, it makes sense to me. Ralph had been outed...and Pam by default. If they can save Bill and Holly the connection to them, it makes sense to make temporary cuts until people have forgotten about them. To me, that makes perfect sense. |
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Post by MelMac on Apr 4, 2008 23:01:25 GMT -5
I agree with Mona. Completely out of character.
This is AWFUL! AWFUL!
AWFUL I SAY!
HD: Jo, why don't you tell us how you really feel? Actually, it makes sense to me. Ralph had been outed...and Pam by default. If they can save Bill and Holly the connection to them, it makes sense to make temporary cuts until people have forgotten about them. To me, that makes perfect sense. I don't understand this. Yes, I'm pulling my Starlett Wilde impression here - it doesn't make sense, unless you're referring to the trio temporarily splitting until they were sure everyone forgot about Ralph and the suit, the Ralph and Pam return to help Holly and Bill whenever they needed to... ... of course, they could've just decided to not try it and wait until Katt and Connie could return and then restart it. |
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Post by Ms Boku on Apr 4, 2008 23:32:21 GMT -5
I agree with Mona. Completely out of character.
This is AWFUL! AWFUL!
AWFUL I SAY!
HD: Jo, why don't you tell us how you really feel? Actually, it makes sense to me. Ralph had been outed...and Pam by default. If they can save Bill and Holly the connection to them, it makes sense to make temporary cuts until people have forgotten about them. To me, that makes perfect sense. You will do anything to get people going won't you? |
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but it is part of the best scene in the whole episode. 
