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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 1, 2007 14:19:49 GMT -5
Are there any shows out of there of SJC that you could see making a triumphant return to television, regardless of how many years it has been since they were on TV?
Granted, some cannot make it because stars are dead...like on the A-TEAM. It would be hard to have that series "catch up" to our stars because a major one is gone.
However, others could return to the screen like THE GREATEST AMERICAN HERO...but would they hold the same charm years later?
I was watching the special features of PROFIT and SJC said that this could STILL be on the air now or that a network could pick it up and have a hit on their hands...even after all these years. I agree...after all, I think only Adrian Pasdar has steady work with HEROES.
What are other SJC shows that you think could make a triumphant return to television and not lose the original charm? Why do you think that?
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Post by MelMac on Mar 1, 2007 16:29:58 GMT -5
"GAH" would have to be updated and ignore "GAHeroine" (which is easy to do) in order to make a triumphant return, but it is definitely possible there. It also might require a few minor additions/changes, but not all of them because of the updated issues. Haven't seen "Profit," so I can't say. "Top of the Hill" could, but this day and age, I don't know there because there will probably be a politician that will hate it and have it cancelled. Think I'm kidding, here's some shows that were affected because they were deemed "too violent": * "The Wild, Wild West" (original). Most violence was either shots that weren't fatal, explosions with no bodies, and the occasional drugging/cholorforming/pistolwhipping... which all three produced just unconsciousness. Artie also had a tendency at times to knock himself out (testing ether and passes out from fumes, etc.) * the showdown shootout in "Gunsmoke" was removed toward the end of its series to keep it on air. You didn't even see the person get hit. * "Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog" - TOP of the ratings for kids on Fox, cancelled after its second season beecause of a tightening of violence. Here, no one was ever run through with a sword, etc. Mostly just sword fighting and spells and such. Worst case of violence was when Rohan gets knocked out by debris in what became the series' two-parter conclusion.  Cynical, yes... but from what was shown on Fox as far as "Tir Na Nog..." it was going to be a third season. They'd had a much more definite conculsion and Nemain wouldn't have said "It's only just begun." She'd been defeated as well. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 1, 2007 17:18:25 GMT -5
"GAH" would have to be updated and ignore "GAHeroine" (which is easy to do) in order to make a triumphant return, but it is definitely possible there. It also might require a few minor additions/changes, but not all of them because of the updated issues. Haven't seen "Profit," so I can't say. "Top of the Hill" could, but this day and age, I don't know there because there will probably be a politician that will hate it and have it cancelled. Think I'm kidding, here's some shows that were affected because they were deemed "too violent": * "The Wild, Wild West" (original). Most violence was either shots that weren't fatal, explosions with no bodies, and the occasional drugging/cholorforming/pistolwhipping... which all three produced just unconsciousness. Artie also had a tendency at times to knock himself out (testing ether and passes out from fumes, etc.) * the showdown shootout in "Gunsmoke" was removed toward the end of its series to keep it on air. You didn't even see the person get hit. * "Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog" - TOP of the ratings for kids on Fox, cancelled after its second season beecause of a tightening of violence. Here, no one was ever run through with a sword, etc. Mostly just sword fighting and spells and such. Worst case of violence was when Rohan gets knocked out by debris in what became the series' two-parter conclusion. Cynical, yes... but from what was shown on Fox as far as "Tir Na Nog..." it was going to be a third season. They'd had a much more definite conculsion and Nemain wouldn't have said "It's only just begun." She'd been defeated as well. MelMac, the first post said SJC SHOWS, not every show you could think of. As for GAH, I don't think it could. PROFIT has all the original people around and available. I don't think the original trio could do a series because it is unlikely to have Bill STILL in the FBI and Ralph would be a little old to wear the suit and do the stuff he did. Triumphant return? No. I think the show that did it the best (albeit through TV movies) was THE ROCKFORD FILES. The character held the same charm and no one had to be replaced, which made it more likely that fans would tune in. |
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Post by MelMac on Mar 1, 2007 22:32:05 GMT -5
"GAH" would have to be updated and ignore "GAHeroine" (which is easy to do) in order to make a triumphant return, but it is definitely possible there. It also might require a few minor additions/changes, but not all of them because of the updated issues. Haven't seen "Profit," so I can't say. "Top of the Hill" could, but this day and age, I don't know there because there will probably be a politician that will hate it and have it cancelled. Think I'm kidding, here's some shows that were affected because they were deemed "too violent": * "The Wild, Wild West" (original). Most violence was either shots that weren't fatal, explosions with no bodies, and the occasional drugging/cholorforming/pistolwhipping... which all three produced just unconsciousness. Artie also had a tendency at times to knock himself out (testing ether and passes out from fumes, etc.) * the showdown shootout in "Gunsmoke" was removed toward the end of its series to keep it on air. You didn't even see the person get hit. * "Mystic Knights of Tir Na Nog" - TOP of the ratings for kids on Fox, cancelled after its second season beecause of a tightening of violence. Here, no one was ever run through with a sword, etc. Mostly just sword fighting and spells and such. Worst case of violence was when Rohan gets knocked out by debris in what became the series' two-parter conclusion. Cynical, yes... but from what was shown on Fox as far as "Tir Na Nog..." it was going to be a third season. They'd had a much more definite conculsion and Nemain wouldn't have said "It's only just begun." She'd been defeated as well. MelMac, the first post said SJC SHOWS, not every show you could think of. As for GAH, I don't think it could. PROFIT has all the original people around and available. I don't think the original trio could do a series because it is unlikely to have Bill STILL in the FBI and Ralph would be a little old to wear the suit and do the stuff he did. Triumphant return? No. I think the show that did it the best (albeit through TV movies) was THE ROCKFORD FILES. The character held the same charm and no one had to be replaced, which made it more likely that fans would tune in. HD... those were examples of why I didn't think "Top of the Hill" could make a triumphant return. Thought you'd get it, but guess I was misunderstood (then again... I almost walked by a building I needed to go to yesterday in Austin that clearly had the name on the side in 5 foot tall letters.  ) "GAH" with the originals, it's possible, but overall unlikely because of Culp's age. Now, could there be a continuation like they tried... yes. TV movie... yes, even now. "Rockford Files," they could do a TV movie or two, but Garner is getting on in years to do a series. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 1, 2007 23:30:18 GMT -5
MelMac, the first post said SJC SHOWS, not every show you could think of. As for GAH, I don't think it could. PROFIT has all the original people around and available. I don't think the original trio could do a series because it is unlikely to have Bill STILL in the FBI and Ralph would be a little old to wear the suit and do the stuff he did. Triumphant return? No. I think the show that did it the best (albeit through TV movies) was THE ROCKFORD FILES. The character held the same charm and no one had to be replaced, which made it more likely that fans would tune in. HD... those were examples of why I didn't think "Top of the Hill" could make a triumphant return. Thought you'd get it, but guess I was misunderstood (then again... I almost walked by a building I needed to go to yesterday in Austin that clearly had the name on the side in 5 foot tall letters. ) "GAH" with the originals, it's possible, but overall unlikely because of Culp's age. Now, could there be a continuation like they tried... yes. TV movie... yes, even now. "Rockford Files," they could do a TV movie or two, but Garner is getting on in years to do a series. No...I understood, but comparing crappy TV to great SJC TV is a bad way to go about it. |
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Post by MelMac on Mar 1, 2007 23:41:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't say "Gunsmoke's" crappy, given it's tenure and overall the episodes were great. It also succeeded with Dillion's sidekick being changed three times. Newly was the weakest of the three, but even he made it believable. "The Wild Wild West" at times was farfetched, but I give it kudos because they did succeed during the last season despite the fact that Ross Martin (Artemus) had to be replaced for half the season. Reason, he had a major (and almost fatal) heart attack. What's neat is that even though he was in the show half a season, Martin was so strong in his character he was nominated for an Emmy in the role. Robert Conrad also did his own stunts (also wound up with a skull fracture during one stunt) and both even worked while injured, though in one case (Artemus) the story was reworked slightly. This case, Martin's ankle was broken. Point is, unlike some stars it seems today, they continued working despite the injuries unless they had no choice, such as the aforementioned heart attack. Overall, neither are crappy TV. That's some of the stuff on nowadays, as they use too much sex, violence, etc. Then again, some would say these shows are hokey. I'd take them (hokey, and do) over detailed talk about the human reproductive system any day.  |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 2, 2007 12:23:45 GMT -5
Again, not SJC TV so they are not really applicable to the idea of what we are talking about. Plus, none of them had triumphant returns as far as coming back THIS many years later. I know you hold special places in your hearts for these old shows (and GUNSMOKE isn't bad per se), but it is not on the same level as things like PROFIT, THE ROCKFORD FILES, THE A-TEAM, etc., which is the POINT of this thread. Could the SJC shows be returned to TV and still work? As I said, THE A-TEAM could not for very good reason. I think from what I have heard of it, UNSUB could still come back to television...in fact, it could have done so a few years ago and been just as successful as CSI or LAW AND ORDER. I don't know if the cast is still capable or not, but I think they could have done so and been quite successful.
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Post by MelMac on Mar 2, 2007 14:03:44 GMT -5
Again, not SJC TV so they are not really applicable to the idea of what we are talking about. Plus, none of them had triumphant returns as far as coming back THIS many years later. I know you hold special places in your hearts for these old shows (and GUNSMOKE isn't bad per se), but it is not on the same level as things like PROFIT, THE ROCKFORD FILES, THE A-TEAM, etc., which is the POINT of this thread. Could the SJC shows be returned to TV and still work? As I said, THE A-TEAM could not for very good reason. I think from what I have heard of it, UNSUB could still come back to television...in fact, it could have done so a few years ago and been just as successful as CSI or LAW AND ORDER. I don't know if the cast is still capable or not, but I think they could have done so and been quite successful. They are (as to why some won't work in today's mentality of politics and violence), but I'm going to digress here. Based on concepts that would work today (you didn't say here with the original cast), "GAH" would, "Profit" would, "Top of the Hill" would (though probably wouldn't be made with politics of today), even "The Rockford Files." "The A-Team" would be possible, but they'd probably move it to the extreme one way or the other: Turn it into a mean version or make it overly cheesy where no one gets hurt, and BA just faints when he sees a plane (OK, silly, but I can see it happening along the lines of other shows.) |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 2, 2007 14:25:08 GMT -5
Again, not SJC TV so they are not really applicable to the idea of what we are talking about. Plus, none of them had triumphant returns as far as coming back THIS many years later. I know you hold special places in your hearts for these old shows (and GUNSMOKE isn't bad per se), but it is not on the same level as things like PROFIT, THE ROCKFORD FILES, THE A-TEAM, etc., which is the POINT of this thread. Could the SJC shows be returned to TV and still work? As I said, THE A-TEAM could not for very good reason. I think from what I have heard of it, UNSUB could still come back to television...in fact, it could have done so a few years ago and been just as successful as CSI or LAW AND ORDER. I don't know if the cast is still capable or not, but I think they could have done so and been quite successful. They are (as to why some won't work in today's mentality of politics and violence), but I'm going to digress here. Based on concepts that would work today (you didn't say here with the original cast), "GAH" would, "Profit" would, "Top of the Hill" would (though probably wouldn't be made with politics of today), even "The Rockford Files." "The A-Team" would be possible, but they'd probably move it to the extreme one way or the other: Turn it into a mean version or make it overly cheesy where no one gets hurt, and BA just faints when he sees a plane (OK, silly, but I can see it happening along the lines of other shows.) I forgot who the literal one was...when I said THE A-TEAM would not due to not having the WHOLE origina cast...I can see how you would not be able to extrapolate the idea right. As for the A-TEAM, if it RETURNED to TV and was not REMADE for TV, then you would have to keep it the SAME...and the two ways you mentioned would not be feasible. I think HUNTER could probably return to TV too assuming the stars are still alive. |
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Post by MelMac on Mar 2, 2007 16:33:54 GMT -5
Both "Hunter" stars are still alive as far as I know. It's been a while there since I've seen the show (but now have the theme song in my head. And... quite honestly, I'd much rather be literal than dizzy-headed... literally. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 2, 2007 16:37:02 GMT -5
Both "Hunter" stars are still alive as far as I know. It's been a while there since I've seen the show (but now have the theme song in my head. And... quite honestly, I'd much rather be literal than dizzy-headed... literally. You mean there is a DIFFERENCE in the two for you? After reading about it again, I think THE QUEST could easily be picked up and put back in the rotation, especially on a place like FOX...or depending on how it was written: Maybe even SCIFI. |
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Post by MelMac on Mar 2, 2007 21:53:30 GMT -5
Both "Hunter" stars are still alive as far as I know. It's been a while there since I've seen the show (but now have the theme song in my head. And... quite honestly, I'd much rather be literal than dizzy-headed... literally. You mean there is a DIFFERENCE in the two for you? After reading about it again, I think THE QUEST could easily be picked up and put back in the rotation, especially on a place like FOX...or depending on how it was written: Maybe even SCIFI. Yes, because when I refer to having a "blonde" moment, I use ditzy, meaning out of the blue comments. "Dizzy-headed," when I use it anyway, means that I literally am dizzy and could pass out. If I've got "The Quest" right in my head, it's possible too it could be picked up again. Now, if it's sci-fi based, it's got a better chance too as lately a few sci-fi based shows that were cancelled in their original runs, such as "Doctor Who," are doing excellent in their returns. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 2, 2007 22:51:23 GMT -5
You mean there is a DIFFERENCE in the two for you? After reading about it again, I think THE QUEST could easily be picked up and put back in the rotation, especially on a place like FOX...or depending on how it was written: Maybe even SCIFI. Yes, because when I refer to having a "blonde" moment, I use ditzy, meaning out of the blue comments. "Dizzy-headed," when I use it anyway, means that I literally am dizzy and could pass out. If I've got "The Quest" right in my head, it's possible too it could be picked up again. Now, if it's sci-fi based, it's got a better chance too as lately a few sci-fi based shows that were cancelled in their original runs, such as "Doctor Who," are doing excellent in their returns. Well, you can read about it in a little more detail Here.It links you to another link. |
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Post by MelMac on Mar 2, 2007 23:05:54 GMT -5
Yes, because when I refer to having a "blonde" moment, I use ditzy, meaning out of the blue comments. "Dizzy-headed," when I use it anyway, means that I literally am dizzy and could pass out. If I've got "The Quest" right in my head, it's possible too it could be picked up again. Now, if it's sci-fi based, it's got a better chance too as lately a few sci-fi based shows that were cancelled in their original runs, such as "Doctor Who," are doing excellent in their returns. Well, you can read about it in a little more detail Here.It links you to another link. Which links me to another link... which leads me to another...   After reading the summary, I do see this one coming back either with the original cast or brought back with a new cast. The show might be successful round two. |
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