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Post by MissDavidson on Aug 18, 2008 14:18:55 GMT -5
I love his laugh! Darn the Perry Mason Mysteries. Gotta love Bill Maxwell with the 99% kill ratio I'm both shocked and pleasantly surprised that [the franchise] is being brought back around.
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 18, 2008 16:03:36 GMT -5
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 18, 2008 16:30:20 GMT -5
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 18, 2008 21:28:24 GMT -5
surprised the Bill and Pam fans haven't commented on these yet. they're short but they are good.
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Post by MissDavidson on Aug 18, 2008 21:38:45 GMT -5
Ah. . .I love Robert Culp's perspective on "Ralph wasn't a superhero". It makes sense. He was an ordinary guy hit with extraordinary circumstances.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 18, 2008 21:40:15 GMT -5
surprised the Bill and Pam fans haven't commented on these yet. they're short but they are good. Yes, I have to admit they're short but good. Mtv is trying to at least revert slightly back to their golden days where they were even showing "The Monkees" in syndication. It's also nice to see the ashcan finally (outside of the two pics I've seen) how they've drawn Bill and Ralph on paper in both stills/closeups and as though they were moving. They did a good job there.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 18, 2008 23:10:42 GMT -5
What am I supposed to like about the last one you posted?
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 19, 2008 7:31:18 GMT -5
What am I supposed to like about the last one you posted? Um connie...
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Post by greenguy on Aug 19, 2008 8:13:02 GMT -5
I love the clip with Culp saying "greenguys"...sounds so Maxwell.
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Post by mmderdekea on Aug 19, 2008 9:14:39 GMT -5
I love the clip with Culp saying "greenguys"...sounds so Maxwell. Sounds EXACTLY like Maxwell! Wonderful. And, he's right to correct folks who call it a "Superhero Franchise". It's a "SuperSuit Franchise" with ordinary folks dealing with it all. Mona
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Post by MelMac on Aug 19, 2008 9:31:54 GMT -5
Sounds EXACTLY like Maxwell! Wonderful. And, he's right to correct folks who call it a "Superhero Franchise". It's a "SuperSuit Franchise" with ordinary folks dealing with it all. Mona I can't fault the reporter for making this error for many reasons, mostly that he's human and possibly younger than the show. While it is a super suit franchise, if you watch the show for the first few times (not knowing the whole premise), Ralph can be seen as a superhero-type fellow as well when he wears the suit. In the show, bad guys who deal with him would probably say he's a superhero, even though others see him as being a fry short of a Happy Meal. Plus, in "GAHeroine" (which Culp helped write) Ralph's told by the President, "America truly has the Greatest American Hero," which does give a superhero feel to the character. None of the public in that scene knows that Ralph's powers are in the suit, so they assume he's a superhero. Regardless, the reporter made an honest mistake at most, but I think he was chastised more than he should've been for the comment.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 19, 2008 15:05:01 GMT -5
So, what do people think about the ashcan? I think they did a great job with both Bill and Ralph on the renderings, including the action type shots of the duo. The only quibble I have (though it might just be me here), is they added the saucer there. I've always felt it was the part that lit up and several stories high - just small and unassuming. Did like too they made sure to add the probes from the pilot as well.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Aug 19, 2008 15:30:19 GMT -5
What am I supposed to like about the last one you posted? Um connie... I thought you meant a certain picture or rendering of her.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 19, 2008 15:31:59 GMT -5
That's the only character they're missing - the rendering of Pam in the comic. I bet though it'll shine as much as she does IRL.
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Post by greenguy on Aug 19, 2008 15:41:01 GMT -5
So, what do people think about the ashcan? I think they did a great job with both Bill and Ralph on the renderings, including the action type shots of the duo. The only quibble I have (though it might just be me here), is they added the saucer there. I've always felt it was the part that lit up and several stories high - just small and unassuming. Did like too they made sure to add the probes from the pilot as well. I thought it was kinda cool to add the missing saucer section. Although in the series, it was supposed to have a dome top, as seen on the smaller miniature. In real life, a dome was never built for the larger of the two models.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 19, 2008 15:43:04 GMT -5
So, what do people think about the ashcan? I think they did a great job with both Bill and Ralph on the renderings, including the action type shots of the duo. The only quibble I have (though it might just be me here), is they added the saucer there. I've always felt it was the part that lit up and several stories high - just small and unassuming. Did like too they made sure to add the probes from the pilot as well. I thought it was kinda cool to add the missing saucer section. Although in the series, it was supposed to have a dome top, as seen on the smaller miniature. In real life, a dome was never built for the larger of the two models. Is this the kinda sorta glowing jellyfish top thing in the pilot when the ship rises to the take off in the pilot? It looked like it was being pulled by something curved and lit.
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Post by greenguy on Aug 19, 2008 15:45:37 GMT -5
I thought it was kinda cool to add the missing saucer section. Although in the series, it was supposed to have a dome top, as seen on the smaller miniature. In real life, a dome was never built for the larger of the two models. Is this the kinda sorta glowing jellyfish top thing in the pilot when the ship rises to the take off in the pilot? It looked like it was being pulled by something curved and lit. Yeah, that's it. It was some sort of shell fish they turned over, and added lights to.
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Post by MST3Claye on Aug 19, 2008 19:34:12 GMT -5
Didn't realize the ashcan was linked in here. So the diner was in Castaic Lake, huh? Anyways, good stuff!
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Post by jopierce on Aug 19, 2008 20:37:08 GMT -5
Regardless, the reporter made an honest mistake at most, but I think he was chastised more than he should've been for the comment. Well, I have to disagree with you here, Mac. I think that Culp was RIGHT ON with that comment! ;D
It's like saying that Pam was Ralph's wife from day one. Nope. She wasn't. That would negate ALL of the trials and tibulations that the couple went through.
Likewise, it would be like saying that Bill was the top agent before he met Ralph. No. He wasn't. The point was that Bill was a good agent who benefited from the suit.
So if the whole premise of the show is that Ralph isn't a superhero - that he does not have the powers, but has them thrust upon him and they are not a part of him, but something he is given - then this isn't just Culp nitpicking. It's making the whole premise of the show clear.
We tend to go back and forth a billion and a half times on this board, nitpicking minute details like zippers and filming locations and lyrics to music and other things that most people would brush over. Why can't the people who are even more involved in this show also do the same?
So, thumbs up to Mr. Culp, IMHO. ;D
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Post by MelMac on Aug 19, 2008 21:07:51 GMT -5
Jo, I understand that too; however, for all we know this kid's one of those teenyboppers who is practically a virgin as far as the world of "GAH." Heck, we're all fans and we're going to be newbies to the updated version of the show, given they're changing things up a little. This is how I see it from the reporter's POV: For a younger generation, and given the heroes we're seeing in movies and such, they'd would see a superhero franchise first on the surface then when looking deeper inside the show, they'd see the SuperSuit franchise. Example, ask Jane Schmo on the street what's the thing he or she remembers most about the show? - that he couldn't fly right in the suit and crashed into things while flying. That's a superhero power perspective (even if a crazy one) - they remember the suit and its powers, not the human aspect. Ask a fan of "GAH" or someone who's watched several episodes what's the first thing they remember about the show however: it's mostly things such as a human aspect, nitpicky things such as the zippers, etc. The superhero stuff fades into the background. Did the reporter deserve to be corrected? Yes, but I just felt it was a little too much IMHO when Culp and Katt have also made a few minor errors in interviews in telling of the show's history, such as that it ran two seasons instead of three or that six episodes of season three were aired (meaning 7 would've been unaired). But, they're human and as you've said, Culp and Katt have been spot on too. I do think, however, the reporters in the future when the comic book comes out need to watch at least the pilot of the original series in order to have a basic premise of what's going on.
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