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Post by herald7 on Dec 18, 2011 15:48:57 GMT -5
OK "Live at Eleven" was my very first official Greatest American Hero episode so it's very special to me. And I can still remember my very first impressions: "Who is the older guy, Ralph's goofy uncle? Lol, though he does have a rather unique, intriguing cadence when he talks."  "Um...is Ralph always this sarcastic?" Lol ;D |
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Post by prometheus74 on Dec 18, 2011 18:20:11 GMT -5
Well, you first started out with a very good episode, then! This is an episode I enjoy a lot. The whole "mind control" power that Ralph has newly acquired in this episode makes for some entertaining and humorous moments. Ralph using the power to manipulate Pam into doing what he wants-----while decidedly unheroic-----does show that he's a normal human being. I mean, let's face it, if any of us suddenly had the power to manipulate others' actions, we'd be having a little fun with that for a little while-----before our conscience kicked in. |
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Post by herald7 on Dec 18, 2011 21:12:53 GMT -5
I mean, let's face it, if any of us suddenly had the power to manipulate others' actions, we'd be having a little fun with that for a little while-----before our conscience kicked in. Yeah in a way that was Ralph's first real temptation of power. I mean up until now he's easily resisted the super hero stuff because, let's face it, everything about it was annoying! The super suit was embarrassing to wear, the missions were threatening his job and worst of all, he had to be at the beck and call of a pushy Fed, lol. But now for the first time having a super power has some rather pleasant perks, lol. And like you say, it would hard for anyone to resist the urge to take advantage. But Ralph's a special person because it doesn't take him too long to get his head straightened out, lol. Plus I love how the fact that the "mind push" is giving him a headache is enough to make him happy it's gone. I think others (like say Beck) would get desperate trying to find a way to deal with the headaches, but not have to give up the power. |
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Post by believeitornot on Dec 19, 2011 19:04:22 GMT -5
And it was so funny at the end when Bill wanted him to "convince" the traffic cop not to give him a ticket and Ralph just says the reason he doesn't have his registration is that he forgot to renew it.  |
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Post by herald7 on Dec 20, 2011 18:14:57 GMT -5
And it was so funny at the end when Bill wanted him to "convince" the traffic cop not to give him a ticket and Ralph just says the reason he doesn't have his registration is that he forgot to renew it. Yeah I love that, of course Bill doesn't realize the power is gone so he just thinks Ralph's being a jerk for no reason, lol. |
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Post by creepygirl on Dec 23, 2011 9:17:00 GMT -5
It's so funny you guys are talking about this episode. I just watched it last week for the first time in about three or four years. I liked it a lot and found the mind control very funny.
I also agree, a very good third season episode.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Dec 23, 2011 9:33:30 GMT -5
I agree.
One of the best Season 3 episodes.
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Post by prometheus74 on Dec 23, 2011 22:55:46 GMT -5
I can agree with that too!
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Post by herald7 on Dec 23, 2011 23:59:54 GMT -5
I agree as well. Heaven in Your Genes kinda worried me because some of it really verged on "jump the shark" but Live at Eleven definitely elevated the third season back up. |
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Post by MelMac on Jan 4, 2012 23:26:49 GMT -5
And it was so funny at the end when Bill wanted him to "convince" the traffic cop not to give him a ticket and Ralph just says the reason he doesn't have his registration is that he forgot to renew it. Yeah I love that, of course Bill doesn't realize the power is gone so he just thinks Ralph's being a jerk for no reason, lol. I personally felt that it was just though - Bill may think Ralph was a jerk, but Ralph learned his lesson about abusing the power, and seeing Bill was doing what he did - trying to abuse the power, decided to share it. Bill really clearly showed that he wanted to use the power negatively - the face and all, so kinda funny in the end. Especially with the migraine Ralph got outting the culprit. |
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Post by herald7 on Jan 6, 2012 22:01:10 GMT -5
I personally felt that it was just though - Bill may think Ralph was a jerk, but Ralph learned his lesson about abusing the power, and seeing Bill was doing what he did - trying to abuse the power, decided to share it. I hadn't thought of it like that;, it does create a clear ending to the "abusing the power" storyline as far as Ralph goes. |
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Post by culpkatt on Feb 24, 2015 1:06:10 GMT -5
This is my second favorite season 3 episode after "Divorce Venusian Style." I remember the week before this episode was originally broadcast on ABC the promos showed the scene of Ralph glowing after picking up the plutonium rods. As a kid, that clip of Ralph glowing in blue made me super excited for this episode. Still a very cool effect.
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Post by broomstick on Nov 6, 2016 11:06:11 GMT -5
And it was so funny at the end when Bill wanted him to "convince" the traffic cop not to give him a ticket and Ralph just says the reason he doesn't have his registration is that he forgot to renew it. Yeah I love that, of course Bill doesn't realize the power is gone so he just thinks Ralph's being a jerk for no reason, lol. I dunno - is being honest being a jerk? |
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Post by broomstick on Nov 6, 2016 11:45:30 GMT -5
I mean, let's face it, if any of us suddenly had the power to manipulate others' actions, we'd be having a little fun with that for a little while-----before our conscience kicked in. Yeah in a way that was Ralph's first real temptation of power. I mean up until now he's easily resisted the super hero stuff because, let's face it, everything about it was annoying! The super suit was embarrassing to wear, the missions were threatening his job and worst of all, he had to be at the beck and call of a pushy Fed, lol. But now for the first time having a super power has some rather pleasant perks, lol. And like you say, it would hard for anyone to resist the urge to take advantage. But Ralph's a special person because it doesn't take him too long to get his head straightened out, lol. Plus I love how the fact that the "mind push" is giving him a headache is enough to make him happy it's gone. I think others (like say Beck) would get desperate trying to find a way to deal with the headaches, but not have to give up the power. We don't know what, exactly, prompted the Green Guys to take away Beck's suit - it might have been an incident where Beck got mind-control powers and abused them terribly. We already know he abused other suit powers and used them against people, having mind-control could account for a lot of his success in acquiring money and power. Who knows? Maybe trying to keep using it despite the crushing headaches lead to his deteriorating health. |
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Post by prometheus74 on Nov 23, 2016 7:19:57 GMT -5
Very true, Broomstick. And that's an interesting theory about Beck's deteriorating health.
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Post by momtojared on Jan 19, 2018 17:18:29 GMT -5
One of my favorite episodes. Probably because its one showing Ralph and Pam as a married couple. I love the interaction with them at the end and Bill calling Pam Mrs. H.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Feb 5, 2018 8:51:07 GMT -5
Yeah in a way that was Ralph's first real temptation of power. I mean up until now he's easily resisted the super hero stuff because, let's face it, everything about it was annoying! The super suit was embarrassing to wear, the missions were threatening his job and worst of all, he had to be at the beck and call of a pushy Fed, lol. But now for the first time having a super power has some rather pleasant perks, lol. And like you say, it would hard for anyone to resist the urge to take advantage. But Ralph's a special person because it doesn't take him too long to get his head straightened out, lol. Plus I love how the fact that the "mind push" is giving him a headache is enough to make him happy it's gone. I think others (like say Beck) would get desperate trying to find a way to deal with the headaches, but not have to give up the power. We don't know what, exactly, prompted the Green Guys to take away Beck's suit - it might have been an incident where Beck got mind-control powers and abused them terribly. We already know he abused other suit powers and used them against people, having mind-control could account for a lot of his success in acquiring money and power. Who knows? Maybe trying to keep using it despite the crushing headaches lead to his deteriorating health. That's a great theory. I hadn't thought about the suit causing the deterioration of Beck's health. Maybe the Greenguys took it away because when he used it for self gain, it began to debilitate him...and he couldn't use it anymore... |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Dec 4, 2018 11:58:47 GMT -5
I watched this again.
The mind control power had its benefits, as shown in getting the bad guys to tell Ralph where the bomb was. It also worked on his students in a way that did not hurt my opinion of him too much.
But his intentional use of it on Pam in the kitchen, while played for laughs, was extensive. It's one thing to have him try it and see if it worked, but he kept doing it when she kept saying no.
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Post by culpkatt on Mar 2, 2019 15:18:56 GMT -5
I watched this again. The mind control power had its benefits, as shown in getting the bad guys to tell Ralph where the bomb was. It also worked on his students in a way that did not hurt my opinion of him too much. But his intentional use of it on Pam in the kitchen, while played for laughs, was extensive. It's one thing to have him try it and see if it worked, but he kept doing it when she kept saying no. While it's meant to be humorous, Ralph's repeated use of the mind push to get Pam in the kitchen and make him a sandwich does not hold up well. That scene would definitely not fly (no pun intended) in the Me Too era. |
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Mar 4, 2019 16:42:48 GMT -5
I watched this again. The mind control power had its benefits, as shown in getting the bad guys to tell Ralph where the bomb was. It also worked on his students in a way that did not hurt my opinion of him too much. But his intentional use of it on Pam in the kitchen, while played for laughs, was extensive. It's one thing to have him try it and see if it worked, but he kept doing it when she kept saying no. While it's meant to be humorous, Ralph's repeated use of the mind push to get Pam in the kitchen and make him a sandwich does not hold up well. That scene would definitely not fly (no pun intended) in the Me Too era. Agreed. Plus, Pam was a strong character in her own right. To be reduced to that for several minutes should have been degrading then. |
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