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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 18, 2006 10:13:39 GMT -5
Another puny effort by Hasburgh in my opinion. The story idea was neat...later to be somewhat replicated by a MACGYVER episode, but it was not the usual GAH caliber.
Is that really Ralph skiing with Pam? If so, they do have some good moments, although I know that is not Katt on the more dangerous stunts. But where was the cape? Pam handed it to him. Why not have it on too?
Another time where Pam gets dumped for another woman...although I don't think Ralph had a roving eye for this one. Just a past with similar beliefs. Pam handles it decently, mainly becoming more like Bill while sarcastically modeling Sam.
I like how Bill said he would be up on the next flight, but we just heard him say in the previous episode that he had no vacation and had to go to Carlisle and then above his head. How did he get out of this one so easily?
I hate how Bill keeps getting spooked by the disappearing Ralph trick. The only episode that it didn't happen besides the random first season episode where he was dimming, was THE SHOCK WILL KILL YOU. Every other time, he gets freaked out.
How did Ralph stop the snowplow headed for the kids? He never turned off the engine or anything?
The fact that the slope had a spot not covered by cameras was very convenient too. Most places that would not happen...especially in a media-happy country like the US.
Finally, why was the door not guarded at the cabin when the bad guys showed up? Bill gets shot, yet, there is no damage the next time we see him.
A lot of valiant efforts and great lines, but not a worthy effort for GAH or Mr. Hasburgh.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 18, 2006 10:15:34 GMT -5
Also, there was the added addition on the suit holograph power. Before Ralph usually had to touch something...it was rare he got a holograph off something without touching it...the exception usually being a person he was close to being in trouble. However, Bill told Ralph in the locker room that he wanted to know what was in the lockers and Ralph just looked at them without touching them. Neat new power.
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Post by MelMac on Jul 18, 2006 18:46:29 GMT -5
I agree on teh spooked bit, to a degree. The only time Bill should get spooked was when he appeared after being away from him for X amount of time. Ralph aslo kept the capeunder the tunic when he was wearing the jacket, etc. (snow gear). I originally thought belt, but that wouldn't work as it could be seen (Cape falling out of it, Ralph not wearing jacket). The scanning all the lockers alludes to X-ray vision, but he doesn't go into detail. You're right about him needing a holograph bit... unless it goes with what I've thought that Ralph could get holographs of people if they were dead.
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Post by Videofox on Jul 18, 2006 19:33:27 GMT -5
The writers never really were consistent with the suit powers throughout the series. It seemed like he could teleport when he was taunting the ninja master, and could easily see inside the house where the mercenaries were going to auction off the stolen gunsight without having anything to vibe off of, etc. etc. I just ration it out by thinking that the holographs provide him with x-ray and telescopic vision, as well as super hearing, without them being seperate super-senses. He just has to concentrate on a house or a locker and the holographs cover it all at once. In addition to that, it would show him what's inside the mind of anyone who's vibes the suit picks up. I know this doesn't explain any other strange holographs he's had, but it's a general rationalization that works for me. Especially in the pilot, when he has a holo of Bill getting kidnapped although he's all the way across town in the hospital, and had no contact with Bill since first putting on the suit. Perhaps the greenguys programmed Bill's vibes into the suit ahead of time since they were chosen to be partners. Not knowing exactly how the suit works with no way of understanding or comprehending it, while being nothing more than inconsistent writing in the real world, might give viewers an insight into how Ralph feels...he's as clueless as we are! ;D So if you look at it that way, then it's BRILLIANT!!
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 18, 2006 22:26:13 GMT -5
I hadn't considered that maybe the suit has the power to merge some of its complementary powers. Good thinking.
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Post by jopierce on Jul 25, 2006 19:45:02 GMT -5
Just watched this episode again. Got a question ...
Bill, when he hatches the switcheroo plot at the end for Ralph to switch with Yuri Pachinko Kopernick Sputnik Pachernik (whatever), says he will win one for the good old USA or something like that. But Yuri Pachinko Kopernick Sputnik Pachernik (whatever) was on the Czech team.
Huh? Ooops? Or am I missing something?
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jul 25, 2006 19:58:31 GMT -5
Winning as in getting a defector out alive I think.
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Post by jopierce on Jul 25, 2006 20:08:24 GMT -5
Winning as in getting a defector out alive I think. Ah, ok. Thanks for the bone... I'll kiss and make up, then...
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Post by billswoman on Dec 29, 2006 8:12:47 GMT -5
I could've sworn I'd posted this about one of my very favorite Ralph scenes (yes, that's Ralph I'm talking 'bout, lol!)
I've always loved flying, and except in the Pilot, when Ralph's flying over the city after saving the President, he never really just gets into the enjoyment of it all, as I would love to do if I had the suit.
But in this one, when he's skiing and just being free and letting loose, I think it's awesome. He may not like flying too much, and generally bungles around with it, but having the suit enhancing his own skiing ability, he must be truly having a blast. We all know the suit's HELPING, but it doesn't give him the ability to ski from scratch. He'd have to be able to do it beforehand; the suit just helps him not worry about crashing and killing himself, lol!
Another thing that's cool about this ep: Ralph gets to walk around in the suit like it's no big deal, not having to worry about people thinking he's nuts or something (like in "Three Ring Circus," when it's his circus "costume").
Adding on to this... cuz I'm watching it right now. I'm liking this episode more and more. I love when Samantha and Bill meet. Here Ralph's got two good friends, who're about as opposite as it can get... I love the look on his face when Bill and Samantha exchange greetings (and she does that wacky handshake, ending it with a "slap me five" on Bill, and he just pauses and pulls his hand back, lol!)
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Post by billswoman on Dec 29, 2006 8:29:03 GMT -5
When Ralph's going to sneak back in to listen to the CIA guys, he puts his cape on... does the suit not work without the cape or something?
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Dec 29, 2006 9:02:46 GMT -5
When Ralph's going to sneak back in to listen to the CIA guys, he puts his cape on... does the suit not work without the cape or something? I think that is the impression they want you to get from it. After all, if he doesn't wear the cape, it could just be some weird ski outfit. Recall the same thing happens in THE GOOD SAMARITAN when he rescues the little boy from the woods. He runs with him because he has him wrapped up in the cape...it made it seem a lot like the cape was pretty necessary for most suit endeavors.
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Post by MelMac on Dec 29, 2006 10:06:49 GMT -5
I've always felt that as long as he is touching or handling the cape too it works fully. He's holding the cape while carrying the boy with hypothermia, and in "Heaven is in Your Genes," Ralph turns invisible when he puts the cape over his head. I don't think it has to be around his neck, just touching him, but whether or not it'll work if it's together or not is something that'd been interesting to find out.
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Post by mmderdekea on Dec 29, 2006 15:11:03 GMT -5
Well, I really enjoy this episode, but then, again, I enjoy just about every one but "Vanity". There is something great in each episode I can really launch onto, makes me smile, or clarifies Bill or Bill and Ralph, or just shows Culp's magnificent acting.
I thought Bill was shot in the gun that he was holding in his hand, and the vibration or shock of the bullet hitting his gun hurt his hand. I think it's pretty clear that Bill's right hand did not heal up well, wholly, after Ralph fractured 1 or 2 metacarpals in the pilot episode. We see Bill react quite strongly to abuse to his right hand afterwards: There is this moment in "All Downhill"; there is his right hand pain upon having his hand grabbed by one of the bad men threatening to kill Ralph in his house in "Who's Woo"; there is right hand pain when he is, coincidentally ALSO shot in the gun he was holding in "Dreams"; and his right hand also hurts a lot at the end of the fight scene in "Classical Gas". Oddly, his left hand, the one that is also broken in "200 mph" and is shot in "Hit Car", seems to not be as sensitive as his right hand. Go figure.
One moment I Just love in this episode is Bill and Ralph sneaking away to the bedroom in the hippie's home, and their conversation as they are closing the door, along the lines of Bill asking "WHAT is the matter with her?" and Ralph answering "She's just...." (I can't hear the rest of the whispering. ) But, I love seeing them chat two together like that. In fact, this whole episode is another in which we see them both as friends, working well together. The episode is worth gold just for that, at least for me. Plus, the tag scene is great!
Mona
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Post by MelMac on Dec 29, 2006 15:46:57 GMT -5
Only thing with Bill and his hand is he shoulda had it cast ASAP when he had it broken. Made for a good continuing feature, but it's not smart to do that. I know of people who waited for a day or so after fracturing a bone, waited too long, and it'll still bother/hurt them in storms and such. Heck, I injured my shoulder falling on a patch of black ice, waited too long to get it checked out, and ended up not only wearing a sling for a week (which was fun as that included a plane flight home), but whenever it storms or I juggle for an exteded period of time (10-15 minutes juggling to "Orange Blossom Special/Cabbage"), it'll act up.
But, I also liked the wackiest explanation as to why Bill and Ralph needed to have the door closed to the room in Sam's house - "Old polo injury."
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Post by Nicol on May 7, 2007 11:57:14 GMT -5
I have a few Questions for this episode that always make me scratch my head and wonder? 1. In this episode you hear them talking about this money they came into. Ralph talks to Pam about getting a Jaguare with this newly aquired money, a red one at that. not to mention the new fake seal skin what ever boots he bought with this money. I think it also paid for the trip. Also Bill mentions something about all there work finally paying off or something like that. Did they get a big reward for capturing the bad guys in the last episode? Did Bill finally decide to Pay Ralph for all his help or get him hired on a need basis? Or is this just one of those GAH mysteries. 2. So why didn't he buy the new car? Cause obviously he still has the the wagon after this episode.
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on May 7, 2007 12:34:24 GMT -5
Good questions, but doesn't Connie look hot as all hell in those shades?
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Post by HoudiniDerek on May 7, 2007 13:01:20 GMT -5
I have a few Questions for this episode that always make me scratch my head and wonder? 1. In this episode you hear them talking about this money they came into. Ralph talks to Pam about getting a Jaguare with this newly aquired money, a red one at that. not to mention the new fake seal skin what ever boots he bought with this money. I think it also paid for the trip. Also Bill mentions something about all there work finally paying off or something like that. Did they get a big reward for capturing the bad guys in the last episode? Did Bill finally decide to Pay Ralph for all his help or get him hired on a need basis? Or is this just one of those GAH mysteries. 2. So why didn't he buy the new car? Cause obviously he still has the the wagon after this episode. Maybe it was money from the Kevin settlement with Alicia. I will have to watch it again and see. And Maxwell-FBI, when ISN'T she hot?
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on May 21, 2007 14:04:56 GMT -5
True true... I've give you that, hands down.
But MAN, sometime it's just simply not fair.
Hell there's a clip at the end of Dreams (when the song is playing over the end credits) where they recap a simple scene where she and Bill simply walk into the classroom and she brings the scene/room to a halt courtesy her stunningness.
Yikes, Batman.
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Post by MelMac on May 22, 2007 21:35:08 GMT -5
I think that Ralph did receive something, maybe something like the lottery or a contest at McDonald's (OK, far-fetched or something) anyway, just some sort of windfall that let him do this. He decided to invite Pam as well not only as a reward for being patient with him and Bill, but to have a romantic getaway from the world.
As far as not getting the Jag, maybe it wasn't fuel efficient enough or he'd seen/tried to stop/drove by a wreck with one that was a fatality. (This is one reason I won't drive anything smaller than a four-door. Been to two fatalities that were 2-door tiny sports cars.) Or simply, he spent too much on the trip and boots he didn't have enough to get the car anytime soon, so he stuck with the station wagon.
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Post by billswoman on May 28, 2007 8:17:21 GMT -5
I thought I'd watched this episode enough, and don't recall them mentioning coming into some money. I'll have to rewatch as well, to see what I might've missed.
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