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Post by jopierce on Oct 3, 2006 20:31:13 GMT -5
So, scenario, what you're saying is that you don't like it???
LOL!
No, seriously, that is great! At least they have done something nice for us fans...
Cool. Enjoy!
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Post by MortimerWest on Oct 3, 2006 23:44:47 GMT -5
The "Cosmic Responding" was the ability to shrink - remember at the end hen they are sifting through the sand looking for the tiny book, Pam says "The cosmic responding was your idea, Bill"
And if I get some time, I'll post some side by sides of the dvd set instruction book and the original prop .
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Post by Succatash on Oct 4, 2006 1:00:52 GMT -5
Wow, MortimerWest, in the flesh. How cool!
sh*t I wish so bad that your script worked out a few years ago. Mr. C let us down!
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Post by scenario on Oct 4, 2006 7:39:55 GMT -5
Mortimer, yeah I am interested in the differences between the DVD book and the actual prop from the series. I've pulled out the Pilot and DVS where we see the book up close, to try and see what differences I can spot. The real prop from the show seems a bit smaller, but I can't fully tell. On Cosmic Responding, there had to be other powers that fell under this heading. The suit was loaded with super powers, and from what we get out of the series everything is under either Cosmic Responding or Interfase Laser Forms. Then there's Holographic Reception, which is self explanatory. I'm assuming Ralph's ability for flight is under Interfasse Laser Forms since it has a subheading called "Gravity Factors Squared". This is fun stufff! Oh and guys I finally opened the little bag the cape came in, maybey many of you will disagree with me on this one...but I think the cape basically sucks. It's GAH, it's nice to have I guess, but it's not much of a cape. It's a pretty small cape too, full size yes, but it's not wide like the series cape. I think it may be cooler to use the cape as a wall mount or something for display, instead of running around in it, infact I may do that. We've been getting all this GAH merchandise lately, I have to wonder when I'll finally stop being grateful for a piece of GAH merchandise no matter how lame it is, just because we had barely anything in the 80s. I am still grateful for the cape, despite my lack of enthusiasim for it. The DVDs (if you want to count that as merchandise), the Ralph statue, the instruction book, the iron logo, the cape. Even 4 years ago I would have never imagined we would have all this. Other then the missing original music on the DVDs, (Eve of Destruction ) it's been a fantasic couple of years for GAH fandom. With the DVDs and other merchandise, it finally feels like we are a more legitimate franchise then what GAH used to be percieved as. I used to always hate how other franchises had so many trinkets to play around with while we had nothing. Next up....give us an official Cannell release model of the alien spaceship. -scenario
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Oct 4, 2006 11:51:11 GMT -5
2. Fess up, I know at least ONE person out there will try to intentionally lose their instruction book. -scenario- [glow=red,2,900]THAT is AWESOME!!![/glow]
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Post by MyTatuo on Oct 4, 2006 12:08:42 GMT -5
Please note I haven't seen the instruction manual up-close yet, but doesn't it appear that the book is actually intended to be several pages long, if not hundreds? The fact that there was only one (index?) page made, because that's all we would see, doesn't really mean that all suit powers would fit under those limited headings, does it?
Although the bulky part of the book contains a little monitor, I see that as being something highly miniaturized and only the thickness of a page (or at least a thin insert) and the tabs on the side indicate sections of the book where some of the instructions are explained in-depth. The suit-wearer would REALLY have to worry about losing the darned book if he had to carry it everywhere, punching numbers into his 6 digit(?) keypad just to make the more-advanced powers work. My thoughts are that the index number is a way for the hero to "experience" the power and see how it feels, so that he can then practice the steps involved (detailed within) in making it work without the keypad...
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Post by scenario on Oct 4, 2006 12:42:51 GMT -5
Please note I haven't seen the instruction manual up-close yet, but doesn't it appear that the book is actually intended to be several pages long, if not hundreds? The fact that there was only one (index?) page made, because that's all we would see, doesn't really mean that all suit powers would fit under those limited headings, does it? That is something that never occured to me, it is quite possible there could be more powers under the Index. I had always assumed that the later pages were an expansion of what was under Cosmic Responding and Interfase Laser Forms, and more of an explanation of Ralph's purpose with the suit and who the greenguys were. It fascinated me to think though that the many powers were broken under two sub-headings. What great irony that would have been. Maybey the greenguys should give out a rope so the book could be worn around the shoulder or neck? This thing could be easily lost, and I don't see where a suit owner would possibly put it. The rationale that Pam had in DVS sounds best, Ralph should have read the whole book first before he tried anything. Feeling the powers out with the buttons, practicing and learning as much as he can, so he doesn't need to carry the book out with him in actual field combat. The lack of a strap of any kind to carry the book around makes me think that the owner should be resonably capable in the powers so that he or she didn't need to carry it around with him. Some things I've noticed....in DVS Cosmic Responding is listed under 1637.21. In the DVD prop book the number is 11637.21. The other numbers are all correct. However, the alien language from the DVD replica does not match the alien language from the series prop. It's a similar type of random alien language looking gobbledy-gook, but the letters or characters are not the same. The section where the monitor is looks different too, actually I think the monitor from the replica looks better then what was used in the series. There is much more alien gobbledy-gook language in the replica monitor. And when Pam opens the instruction book in DVS, the Index of Powers are on the next page behind the main page that says "Instructions". The replica book has it the way it is in the later desert scene from DVS when Ralph looks at it. In that scene before he shrinks to miniature size, the Index of Powers is on the left side, with the monitor and buttons on the right side. The replica has a one sheet hologram of the Index of Powers, it goes from English to Greenguy langauge depending on which angle you look at it from. That's a simple but inspired and neat little effect that gives you the feeling of what happened in DVS when Ralph looked at it with the suit on. The tabs from the replica book look a bit thicker too, and the book from the series does look slightly smaller, well the one from DVS. -scenario
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Oct 4, 2006 14:35:32 GMT -5
Perhaps the original alien symbols were copyrighted like 'Eve of Destruction' so Cannell decided not to use them.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Oct 4, 2006 14:55:18 GMT -5
The "Cosmic Responding" was the ability to shrink - remember at the end hen they are sifting through the sand looking for the tiny book, Pam says "The cosmic responding was your idea, Bill" And if I get some time, I'll post some side by sides of the dvd set instruction book and the original prop . Actually, we don't KNOW that Cosmic Responding is the ability to shrink. If you listen to Bill, he tells Ralph to try that "interphase stuff."
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Post by MortimerWest on Oct 4, 2006 15:02:31 GMT -5
He tells him to "try" some of that interphase stuff after Ralph has already made his selection - he tells Pam to take his glasses and step back double checking the book
Pam declares that Ralph tried the "Cosmic responding" and Ralph doesn't correct her. So it is there -- in a way.
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Post by scenario on Oct 4, 2006 16:03:02 GMT -5
Perhaps the original alien symbols were copyrighted like 'Eve of Destruction' so Cannell decided not to use them. Copyright laws seem to be the never ending nemesis of GAH. Superman, cover songs, funky alien languages... -scenario
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Post by Ms Boku on Oct 6, 2006 7:35:23 GMT -5
The new set comes in a black tin case that contains the 13 DVDs, the fabled instruction manual with working lights, a full-sized cape, and an iron-on logo transfer. It should be stipulated that Anchor Bay makes no promises of super powers and will not be held responsible if you lose the instruction manual. If you’re feeling lucky Anchor Bay has said that 200 randomly selected sets will contain cards autographed by William Katt. Greatest American Hero is a fun show and has a cult following. However, if you’re a fan you probably already own the discs. It’s up to you to decide if the new physical items are worth your well earned dollars to go for the new tin set. If you do buy it, whatever you do don’t misplace it. (as per the review) Now as for anyone who has the book, let's see some pics of the inside.
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Post by MelMac on Oct 6, 2006 9:21:09 GMT -5
Perhaps the original alien symbols were copyrighted like 'Eve of Destruction' so Cannell decided not to use them. Copyright laws seem to be the never ending nemesis of GAH. Superman, cover songs, funky alien languages... -scenario I don't know actually. If what I read was right and it was upside down and backwards Hebrew, they might've pulled or altered it slightly so as to not offend people. While I doubt that the way it was done would read wrong or rude words (i.e. some Chinese characters) you never know in this hypersensitive world. True, they mixed nonsensical "alien" symbols in it (squares, triangles, etc.) but more I think about it, that would be a logical reason. Or... the powers that be just decided to do it as near-green guy talk.
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Post by scenario on Oct 6, 2006 9:39:37 GMT -5
I would post pics of my instruction book if I had the equipment to do so, sadly I am behind the times technologically and do not have such materials at hand. Perhaps someone else can do that. Hopefully MortimerWest can post comparisons pics of the replica book and the actual series prop that he has. I am very surprised that no one else has chimed in about the set. Was I the only one that bought one? In previous moons, others here would have a hold of their DVDs mailed into them well before I would. I realize there is a feeling of dissapointment and double dipping redundancy in buying this set, because we would already have the DVDs and it still has that damn altered music, but the trinkets offered in the set were too tempting for me to give it a pass. I also remember the sky high prices prop makers would quote for a replica instruction book in years past, so in a sense this was a real deal, IMHO. You're getting the book, an extra set of DVDs, and a few other stuff. This stuff still makes me giddy with excitment, I've been feeling like a 6 year old for the past week. -scenario
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Post by extreme01 on Oct 6, 2006 14:02:53 GMT -5
I have to actually wait until they're released here in Canada as I don't have the luxery of getting them through deepdiscountdvd.com. unless there was someone on here that was willing to get an extra set through them, ship it to me, and I'll pay them back for it.
Ted
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Post by MST3Claye on Oct 10, 2006 13:29:16 GMT -5
My set came today, nice timing after possibly finding the location where they filmed Ralph's house. Instruction book in it's own protective cardboard box, cape, iron on transfer and the dvds were all there. The tin opens on both sides with a ribbon on the back for some reason. No autograph though. The book is nice, unfortunately it only has the one page that you can turn. The book spine and the tabs all light up, so do the symbols on the inside. The moveable page, on one side is "Instructions" with the logo like the paper that is in the season 1 set. On the other side is an actual explanation of the suit powers like discussed before, but it's done in a way where the whole page is like those holograph stickers or magnets where if you turn it a certain way you see a different image. Neat idea. Would've liked an autograph but considering what we've gotten from the show within 20 years this is very nice.
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Post by alan on Oct 11, 2006 9:48:59 GMT -5
Hi all,
just received the delux edition this morning and yes that intruction book is pretty cool. i got no 13217 of the 20000 issued and unfortunately no signature from william katt.
i don't think the cape is quite as bad as some say, the writing on the back does make it slightly naff but at least its out there.
i also got the t-shirt from d-tees and the material seems pretty durable so anybody who was iffy about ordering them theres no need to worry. they've got a pretty cool belt buckle as well which i think is next on my list.
cheers,
al
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Post by Maxwell - F.B.I. on Oct 11, 2006 11:29:50 GMT -5
Not bad for a 25 year old show that the network barely kept alive for not even 3 full seasons.
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Post by misterfusion on Oct 25, 2006 22:58:57 GMT -5
Hi all, i don't think the cape is quite as bad as some say, the writing on the back does make it slightly naff but at least its out there. cheers, al Hey Al, Is the cape reversable? could you possible turn it inside out and have the printing underneath where it wouldn't show? Steve
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Post by jasonrobertyates on Oct 26, 2006 17:51:24 GMT -5
Hey does the book allow you to remove the batteries?
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