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Post by mmderdekea on Jun 18, 2008 10:24:44 GMT -5
No problem Dolfyn, but I personally do not think RDA would make a good Maxwell. Just can't see it. I agree he has some range--although MacGuyber was only a simplistic, two dimensional character, O'Neill was indeed a character of greater depth--but I don't think he could portray all the overt aspects and nuances Maxwell. And, mind you, I have written fanfiction regarding O'Neill so I'm a pretty solid fan of SG-1 when he was in it. It's just a feeling I have having watching RDA over the years, hell, decades! It's just that I'm very particular at wondering which actor could correctly re-envision Maxwell, if ANY could, outside of the magnificent Robert Culp. I'm not too optimistic it can be done--there is such a high probability a new production would screw up Maxwell and make him some caricature--but I see Campbell as the most likely candidate. Naturally, others can disagree. Such is life! Mona
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Post by MelMac on Jun 18, 2008 12:12:15 GMT -5
I've seen RDA in many things over the past couple of decades, including "MacGyver," "SG-1" and "Legend" (which IMO was underrated). The last one showed a few more nuances in his acting range than in "MacGyver" in particular. There were times I agree Mac was a bit 2-D I agree (the pilot he almost felt wooden), but going toward the end and in some of his episodes one could see several levels of the character - if people delved into that aspect of the character much. But, I hope too that if they did do a movie, they'd just have a new set of characters like MortimerWest's and we wouldn't have to worry about any of them being recast. Yet, if they did, at least there's two actors that most are in consensus on as far as taking over the reign of Bill (and it will be tough). There's too many for the other roles to even begin listing.
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Post by dolfyn on Jun 19, 2008 8:31:47 GMT -5
No worries, mmderdekea. We're equally entitled to our opinions, so we can agree to disagree. Although, I'm in 100% agreement that Culp was genius in the role of Maxwell! Being a Katt/Hinkley fan, I had a problem imagining anyone else in that role. Katt has such a natural way of acting that he doesn't seem to be acting, especially in TGAH. That's a really rare gift. The only other actor on that level (for me, anyway) is Simon Pegg, which is why he's the only one I could imagine taking on the part of Ralph. (I'll admit that I'm an avid fan of Pegg too & have even had the huge honour of meeting him. I'm convinced that he's the sweetest guy in the biz!) ;D But really, when it all comes down to it, I'd just as soon have TGAH left alone. There's too much peril in trying to revive something like this so many years down the track. Far too often it ends up being crap. Feel the love. dolfyn.
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Post by MelMac on Jun 19, 2008 9:03:25 GMT -5
No worries, mmderdekea. We're equally entitled to our opinions, so we can agree to disagree. Although, I'm in 100% agreement that Culp was genius in the role of Maxwell! Being a Katt/Hinkley fan, I had a problem imagining anyone else in that role. Katt has such a natural way of acting that he doesn't seem to be acting, especially in TGAH. That's a really rare gift. The only other actor on that level (for me, anyway) is Simon Pegg, which is why he's the only one I could imagine taking on the part of Ralph. (I'll admit that I'm an avid fan of Pegg too & have even had the huge honour of meeting him. I'm convinced that he's the sweetest guy in the biz!) ;D But really, when it all comes down to it, I'd just as soon have TGAH left alone. There's too much peril in trying to revive something like this so many years down the track. Far too often it ends up being crap. Feel the love. dolfyn. Did a search on Google to find out who this guy is (sorry, don't watch many movies right now ) and realized he's the guy who is scheduled to play Scotty on the "Star Trek" prequel movie. If he can land that role and do a great job, I bet he could play Ralph well - though he'd have to grow his hair out. But, I'm like you - there's that risk and a lot of movies that have been big screen versions of TV shows have been tripe. Personally, I'm of the opinion if they have to have the original three, do a TV movie with the original cast having one final hurrah and handing it off to a new team. A movie, however, I feel needs to be a new cast, but closer to the TV show's levity than a darker version that people have done with shows such as "Miami Vice" in the movies.
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Post by dolfyn on Jun 20, 2008 6:16:44 GMT -5
No worries, mmderdekea. We're equally entitled to our opinions, so we can agree to disagree. Although, I'm in 100% agreement that Culp was genius in the role of Maxwell! Being a Katt/Hinkley fan, I had a problem imagining anyone else in that role. Katt has such a natural way of acting that he doesn't seem to be acting, especially in TGAH. That's a really rare gift. The only other actor on that level (for me, anyway) is Simon Pegg, which is why he's the only one I could imagine taking on the part of Ralph. (I'll admit that I'm an avid fan of Pegg too & have even had the huge honour of meeting him. I'm convinced that he's the sweetest guy in the biz!) ;D But really, when it all comes down to it, I'd just as soon have TGAH left alone. There's too much peril in trying to revive something like this so many years down the track. Far too often it ends up being crap. Feel the love. dolfyn. Did a search on Google to find out who this guy is (sorry, don't watch many movies right now ) and realized he's the guy who is scheduled to play Scotty on the "Star Trek" prequel movie. If he can land that role and do a great job, I bet he could play Ralph well - though he'd have to grow his hair out. Yeah, Simon Pegg is still not all that well known yet. He's getting there, though. I highly recommend chasing up & watching his backlog of work. He's brilliant. It's funny, but I never really saw the hair as being a necessary part of the Ralph role. The personality & comic timing & of course the suit, yes; but I see the hair as just being the hair that WK happened to have. *shrug* But, I'm like you - there's that risk and a lot of movies that have been big screen versions of TV shows have been tripe. Personally, I'm of the opinion if they have to have the original three, do a TV movie with the original cast having one final hurrah and handing it off to a new team. A movie, however, I feel needs to be a new cast, but closer to the TV show's levity than a darker version that people have done with shows such as "Miami Vice" in the movies. Yeah, a darker version would be stupid, & totally undermine the charm of TGAH in the first place. That's why I'm pretty much opposed to a revival of TGAH unless SJC is heavily involved creatively. After all, who would get it more than the creator? (Of course, the exception to that rule is George Lucas; who created a wonderful universe, invited us all in, & then defecated all over it & the fans! But that's a discussion for another time & place.) Feel the (geeky) love. dolfyn. ;D
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Post by MelMac on Jun 20, 2008 7:33:31 GMT -5
It's funny, but I never really saw the hair as being a necessary part of the Ralph role. The personality & comic timing & of course the suit, yes; but I see the hair as just being the hair that WK happened to have. *shrug* I'm like you - it doesn't have to be blonde and curly (even the female wearers that have been used on film have had curly hair to some degree). But, I guess I'd just like Pegg's hair a little longer than it currently is if he played the role, simply because a buzz/faux hawk just seems a bit out of place with a silly super suit (well, moreso than a silly superhero suit in the general populace. ) Totally agree with you, and given the general discussion on boards here and elsewhere, I think SJC knows we'd love to have him do the movie if at all possible. I'm one of the few who probably liked things in the "prequels" to "Star Wars," but yes, a lot of the storylines and such were a bit out of place. Liked most of the costumes Padme wore though. (Jar Jar... simply no comment - save poor idea for a character. )
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jun 20, 2008 11:08:21 GMT -5
I am not sure if SJC would be ideal for it. He is involved with the remaking of the A-TEAM and they are making it darker and grittier with more realistic violence and such. It changes the whole concept of the show. They had emotional episodes, but nothing so over the top that it was like anything on TV lately. If he was involved with a GAH remake, I would hope that he would keep the original premise alive and not deviate.
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Post by Videofox on Jun 20, 2008 14:27:07 GMT -5
I really don't mind remakes of shows; it is interesting to see how well old classics might (or might not) translate to present-day standards--as long as the source material is taken seriously (even comedy source material needs to be taken seriously while adapting it). Spoofs or parodies like "I-Spy" or "Starsky & Hutch" I don't care for, but I absolutely love the "Addams Family" movies (with Raul Julia/Anjelica Huston) and "Maverick." I even liked the "Lost In Space" movie...at least it tried, considering what it had to work with in the first place. Man hadn't even walked on the Moon yet so that show was terribly outdated to begin with. I couldn't get into the new "Battlestar Galactica" but I can still appreciate that it is a very good and well-made show. The new "Knight Rider" was OK, fitting in to the original universe more so than the previous attempts; I would watch it as a series. As far as a new "A-Team" is concerned, I would at least go in expecting to see the bad guys (and perhaps one or two good guys) actually get SHOT for a change. Yes, I know a couple of the mains got wounded in the show but that was rare. But I would also go in expecting that the characters were *recognizable* and not just sharing a name. I would expect a new GAH to tackle current issues and hot topics of today; they can still do that regardless of what cast they chose (remake or original) and still keep it fun to watch without descending completely into one depressing soap opera or conspiracy theory after another as most shows do (and I mean you, Bionic Woman!)
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jun 20, 2008 15:07:32 GMT -5
I agree, videofox. They can update it and make it more realistic, but that does not mean losing the charm of the show that it is based upon. I liked the TV series ADDAMS FAMILY better than the movies, but the movies were heavily based on the comic to some degree and adapted the TV show.
I would not mind GAH updated to some degree, but the inherent things that made the show work should be present in the film.
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Post by dolfyn on Jun 21, 2008 9:18:43 GMT -5
They can update it and make it more realistic, but that does not mean losing the charm of the show that it is based upon. I would not mind GAH updated to some degree, but the inherent things that made the show work should be present in the film. Agreed. The things that made the show work so well were the sight gags, the witty banter, the study of the human condition & the character depth (as well as the brilliant acting by the 3 leads). The scenarios & bad guys were often incidental. There was a real sense of fun to the show that isn't around much these days. Don't get me wrong, I love dark stuff too, but TGAH is a shining light of bouncy fun in a world of serious & sometimes almost depressing "realism". (And I don't mean "reality" shows! Although, they're depressing for a different reason!) I know that I enjoy a dramatic show far more if there's an element of humour thrown in. Without that, I feel the show is almost a chore to watch, despite the brilliant drama. I think that's because life is actually like that; drama mixed with humour, good & bad. I don't know that WK would make TGAH too dark. He's proven to have a good sense of humour & fun, so I think he couldn't help but have that come through. I don't think it would hurt to make any new TGAH just a little darker (some of my favourite episodes have some pretty dark bits), as long as it's balanced out with a good dose of humour. I think one of the best examples of this is Divorce Venusian Style. Feel the love. dolfyn.
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