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Post by clark25 on Jan 7, 2006 22:33:51 GMT -5
Hey guys I have watched some of the 2hr never before aired pilot of Greatest American Heroine this pilot had a lot of potentianl to be a series and it was perty good.And to I am wondering what year was this done could yall let me know thanks
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 7, 2006 22:40:58 GMT -5
I think the year was 1986...but I am not sure.
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Post by Ms Boku on Jan 8, 2006 0:01:43 GMT -5
I can't stand that ep. It was only good for 2 things, One, seeing the cast again and Bills line- "SHE? YOU PICKED A SKIRT?" Other than that that ep does not exist. I have a soap box in other posts. Die hard fan of the original cast. sorry about my outburst. I have emotional issues with it. I'm happy you liked it.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 8, 2006 0:20:06 GMT -5
I agree that it had potential...and since the pilot was cut to one hour from two...it is likely that we all might have loved it as much as the original...think if the GAH pilot had been cut.
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Post by The J-Man on Jan 8, 2006 9:29:02 GMT -5
I think the year was 1986...but I am not sure. yup, exactly twenty years ago. As a high school freshman, dealing with the cancelation of "GAH" was one of the toughest things I ever had to do (at that time). I can't tell you how excited I was the day I, as a high school senior, read in the morning newspaper's entertainment column that a pilot had just been filmed for a "GAH" revival starring Robert Culp, guest-starring Katt and Sellecca!
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Post by The J-Man on Jan 8, 2006 9:33:59 GMT -5
...Greatest American Heroine this pilot had a lot of potentianl to be a series and it was perty good.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 8, 2006 13:37:18 GMT -5
I can't imagine...I wasn't old enough to be super hurt by it or understand.
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Post by The J-Man on Jan 8, 2006 13:56:51 GMT -5
And as a fourteen-year-old ninth grader, I was at the perfect age to have my world decimated by this turn of events. I'm talking specifically about November 1982, when they first took it off the air. I didn't know they were going to bring it back in a new time slot in January; I was just left hanging. Thank God, by the second time they pulled it off for good in February 1983 "The A-Team" had just premiered in all it's Cannell-produced glory.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 8, 2006 14:01:19 GMT -5
True...were you hurt the same way when it left the air?
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Post by scenario on Jan 11, 2006 15:41:33 GMT -5
I think the year was 1986...but I am not sure. yup, exactly twenty years ago. As a high school freshman, dealing with the cancelation of "GAH" was one of the toughest things I ever had to do (at that time). I can't tell you how excited I was the day I, as a high school senior, read in the morning newspaper's entertainment column that a pilot had just been filmed for a "GAH" revival starring Robert Culp, guest-starring Katt and Sellecca! I remember hearing about the new pilot on this Saturday morning kids show back around 1986. I forgot the name of the show, but it had an audience full of children and they would bring in celebrities (usually affordable TV celebs like Tony Danza) and I remember Connie Sellecca was on there for one episode. She said they were filming a new pilot for GAH, and at the time (I was about 10) I didn't fully understand what she was talking about. It was only a couple of years later in 1988 that I saw GAHeroine in syndication and I was shocked and devastated with the whole thing. Hey does anyone know the name of the show I am talking about it? When Connie was on I remember she told the children to wear their retainer if they have one, because she didn't wear them and now she had to again as an adult. Then I remember one where Tony Danza was on and some kid asked him if he ever gets scared, Danza gave the kid (who was probably only like 9) a rather mean answer. Something like "ofcourse I get scared, what are you talking about it, everyone gets scared". I remember his tone was very rude, especially considering he was talking to a child. I would wake up every Saturday morning and watch this show back in the 80s. -scenario-
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Post by MelMac on Jan 11, 2006 18:49:46 GMT -5
I'm not a huge fan of the GAHeroine pilot, but it did have potential. What killed its chances were the hodge-podge story line created when it was butchered to fit a one hour frame, and, IMHO, the casting of Holly. She was, unfortunately those trying to get the show back, miscast.
If the character were properly cast and the story shown in its entirety, it might have worked out. They needed someone who did at least occasionally grouse about the suit (not saying as much as Ralph), and Holly was nothing but excited about having something that can ruin your life. I will concede Holly had some potential at first, but once she got the suit it was like "Oh, wow like this is the coolest thing in the whole world! Let's go save the whales!"
I do like parts of the episode, but overall, it's the only one I watch if I need something to help me fall asleep (well, after the original cast say their good-byes.)
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 11, 2006 21:57:18 GMT -5
I hated how readily she accepted it for sure, especially knowing that it was unpredictable. There should have been the scene where Ralph talks her into it. Not only that, she became a fruitcake after getting it...thinking that she should make the suit cuter to wear and such.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 11, 2006 22:11:41 GMT -5
I hated how readily she accepted it for sure, especially knowing that it was unpredictable. There should have been the scene where Ralph talks her into it. Not only that, she became a fruitcake after getting it...thinking that she should make the suit cuter to wear and such. Yep, that's the way I felt through and through. Maybe there was a scene where Ralph talked her into it, but was cut. It'd make a good missing scene story. I've always felt some of the show's biggest potential was cut out to make room for the training sequence. To me, that is one of the silliest scenes in the episode. The other silly scene was the fight, which started from the get go when Holly's clothes rip off to reveal the suit (top would've been at least plausible, but pants shouldn't have come off as the guy didn't grab them). Some of the fight was good, but some of it missed the potential of a woman showing the men that appearances can be deceiving. A little OT, but it's based on most people writing what ifs of Kevin getting the suit. While I like the idea too, I've had in my head sometime a what-if in that what if Ralph and Pam had a daughter and the suit was passed down to her, what would happen. It's not one that I plan on writing anytime soon for the Web, but I've used the ideas I've had from it somewhat in two individual fanfics I've written. I've always wondered what'd happened if they had kept it more in the family. There was potential there as well. Guess we won't know except in fanfiction.
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Post by Ms Boku on Jan 14, 2006 13:29:13 GMT -5
I only have one opinion for heroine... Blaah
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 17, 2006 16:06:03 GMT -5
I only have one opinion for heroine... Blaah Even Bill Maxwell's part you hated?
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Post by Ms Boku on Jan 18, 2006 13:30:48 GMT -5
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 18, 2006 13:44:08 GMT -5
Well then stop reading the sections that are dedicated to HEROINE, dummy.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 20, 2006 19:22:21 GMT -5
It was all a baaaaad dream. Seeing them together was great but not like that. I was traumatised. I still am but you people have to keep digging the dagger in my gut! RAAALLPH SAVE MEEE! I get the same feeling everytime I see Holly's "I'll make you proud of me Ralph, you too Bill speech." Get a bleech feeling inside. I have an AU story in mind that would connect GAHeroine in there, but as a dream (actually precognition) Ralph or Bill have. The suit, however, is handed off in a lot more feasible way than stardom getting into Ralph's head. Come to think of it, if it's Ralph's ego using the suit that caused the green guys to make him hand it over, then he should've had to hand it over in "200-MPH fastball." His ego was a little too much at the time, and the suit was part of the reason for his baseball celebrity. I'm starting to think no one was paying attention to the original show's continuity when they wrote the transfer of the suit. Then again, it's so chopped-suey, I might be overlooking something.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on Jan 20, 2006 19:28:05 GMT -5
Well, in the season 2 opener, no one saw him in the suit and he did stop playing. However, HEROINE made him a continuously pompous jerk and it had him doing it in the suit.
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Post by MelMac on Jan 20, 2006 19:48:38 GMT -5
Well, in the season 2 opener, no one saw him in the suit and he did stop playing. However, HEROINE made him a continuously pompous jerk and it had him doing it in the suit. True, but only show appearance we saw of him after the event was "Saturday Night Live" he wasn't wearing it (though yes he mentions breaking a glass bottle with his teeth). Though I have to wonder why the manager didn't say to Ralph he couldn't wear the red sleeves (suit tunic) with his outfit. You don't see the others wearing two extra shirts, and red isn't in the team's uniform. Hmmm... That might be a missing scene I write (one right now in mind for it is Ralph bringing the manager back as there's a ? of why the player Ralph subs for isn't already at bat). But the whole ego thing is what got me. Ralph wouldn't have been that way, at least as excessive. There was so much potential for a good way for him to retire the suit. I think that also hurt GAHeroine's chances. The idea I have for him handing over the suit for my story is at least a lot more plausible.
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