That doggone movie rumor.

[Gordon Smuder]

Hey everyone.

I just bought the season 1 set and am having a great time getting back to my adolescence watching these shows.

I wasn't very impressed with the GAHeroine. It was poorly scripted and the GAHeroine was obviously cast for her figure and not her talent... no wonder the pilot didn't sell. (Don't get me wrong... she was sexy, but I didn't like her.)

The interview stuff is golden though... especially Robert Culp. Its always really cool to see somebody with that kind of track record talk about method and come off as a really nice guy. I think his suggestion for the movie is a good one too.

I read some of the other posts about folk's ideas for the movie version. Like the horrifically poor Galactica 1980 sequel to Battlestar Galactica, my personal opinion is that it is best to simply ignore the events in GAHeroine. Unlike Galactica 1980, it never made it to the airwaves so the general populace would really just be confused about the "missing heroine" that was mentioned as a plot point.

Having Ralph pass the suit to someone new is a good idea, though. And it would be a great way to revitalize the property to have Ralph retire just as Bill Maxwell was retiring from the FBI. As far as alien invasions and such go, I'd love it if they could skip all that and get back to the original idea for the show which was exploring the human condition via the warped view of these characters who suddenly have a completely insane situation heaped upon them. Not that the two are mutually exclusive, but just having him be Superman is a waste of time since Superman already does that so well.

Now, of course, updating would happen. They'd probably want to change the look of the suit. You can pretty much consider that a done deal. So to appease the fans of the old suit, I'd suggest that a coincidental event cause Ralph to "burn out" the old suit. He has to push the suit past it's limit and save the world one last time. The "little green guys" would provide a new, revised, updated and improved suit, but leave it to Ralph to pass it on. This could literally happen in the first 15 minutes of the show so that the new cast could step in and establish themselves.

Anyway, that's my unsolicited two cents. Nice to meet you all!

-Johhny Come Lately (also known as Gordon Smuder)

[HoudiniDerek]

That was a good suggestion about Ralph burning out the suit. Likely to happen without the instruction book.

[HoudiniDerek]

I still think HEROINE should be factored in though. Some may not see it as necessary, but it was meant to expand on the original show and I think that a movie should take that into account. Maybe Holly retires and went back to Ralph because she wanted him to be middleman between the green guys or something lame like that.

[MrsMaxwell]

Call me macabre, but I like my scenario:

Holly dies, Bill recruits Ralph to set things straight and get the bad guys "one last time". This would be great for A.) The people who WANT "Heroine" includes , and B.) The people who found Holly annoying. Then you can add in all you sub-plots like:

1. The Whitney HS Reunion
2. Tony the Fed
3. Where's Kevin?
4. Did Pam & Ralph have a kid?
5. Did Bill & Holly have a kid?
6. What Payless Shoe Store is Paco working in now?
The possibilities are endless....

[HoudiniDerek]

Good call on a way to get Ralph the suit back, but will it work on Ralph? Or will we have to have a green guy scene to start the movie?

[MrsMaxwell]

Of course there will be the obligatory trip to Palmdale.

[MelMac]

I agree that GAHeroine would need to be included, but it doesn't have to be that she died. Given the choppy way the story ran, I've always felt it was a bit like a bad dream. They could play it where Bill had been injured or was dreaming about the events in GAHeroine, and finds out it was just that when he sees Ralph at the stakeout, etc., instead of Holly.

I like the rest of the ideas you suggested, MrsMaxwell. Those would be good for a TV movie or movie if they used the original characters.

As far as the suit being updated, I don't think that'd be a good idea as you risk making the suit look too cool. Part of the humor about the suit was that it looked a bit silly (though that's because it's real-life situations), but it always looked like pajamas or something you can make. Some of the superhero suits they make nowadays look exactly like that. I wouldn't mind seeing minor changes (happened in the show), but drastic changes such as the change from Ralph's 2-piece to Holly's single piece suit are a little too much.

[HoudiniDerek]

And her suit was like glossy paper folded around her.

[MelMac]

houdiniderek said:

And her suit was like glossy paper folded around her.

Not quite, but it did look like a parachute suit and just flat out didn't look right. The original style worked on anyone.

[HoudiniDerek]

True..even the bad guy in HOG WILD. However, the new suit did show off Holly's personal....uh....attributes.

[MelMac]

houdiniderek said:

True..even the bad guy in HOG WILD. However, the new suit did show off Holly's personal....uh....attributes.

Yep, and that's why it was designed that way. Still two piece would highlight a woman's assets as well, but keep it in the same style as the original series.

Makes you wonder, though, if the design would keep changing varying on the wearer. Sort of like "Doctor Who," where each actor in the role had a different dress sense. The most popular one of the lot was Tom Baker, who was best known for wearing a really (as in 15' to 22' long) scarf around his neck.

[MyTatuo]

I think the best way to explain the change in suit fabric from "Hero" to "Heroine", and from 2-piece to *wolf-whistle* (and even the minor changes between seasons of Hero, and maybe even between JJ Beck and Ralph), is that the suit is really just hyper-advanced technology, and can conform to the needs of the wearer.

Though I'm sure Ralph needed it to look like something he wouldn't get locked up in, the ridiculousness of the suit helped bystanders laugh off the superguy, and thereby erase him from their memory because the details were so outlandish to recall.