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Post by MelMac on May 19, 2008 16:00:48 GMT -5
Yeah, the Ralph to Holly hand-over always struck me as odd. Here we have the GG telling Ralph that his ego is out of control and thus he has to lose the suit. However, the GG continue, we believe you are still clear-headed and lucid enough to chose someone else for us....huh? If he's that clear-headed and lucid, then why not give him a second chance? If he's an egomaniac out of control, then why trust him to be able to chose the right person? It seems that that GG would have a complicated vetting process themselves to be able to chose the suit-wearer and their partner, giving them incredible powers to use or abuse, and not simply rely on Ralph walking around and choosing some random chick with a kid. Although the GG, based on JJ Beck and GAHeroine, seemed to do magnificently choosing partners to the suit-wearers--Marshall and Bill holding true to the vision--but kind of didn't do so good with suit-wearers, both of whom lost the suit due to irresponsibility. Now, Ralph fans, don't jump on me, I'm just analyzing what we saw--remember, I don't like GAHeroine either, or Ralph's poor representation in it. Mona You kidding me? That's exactly how I feel about it. Katt was doing "Perry Mason" and chose to continue with it - even being guaranteed two or three years to do "GAH" again. I totally respect that as a. "Mason" was a very popular show and b. he wanted to make sure he didn't get pidgeon-holed into the superhero stereotype. Plus, with Connie doing "Hotel" and not being allowed to crossover to another network, it probably was better to not have Ralph - unless they wanted to explain off Pam's disappearance. However, watching "GAHeroine" it's like the writers were so pissed about Katt's choice they decided to give him the worst send off ever. Most of the sendoffs I've seen were better than what they did with Katt and Connie. They could've done just about anything else, and it would've been better than what they did.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on May 19, 2008 16:02:54 GMT -5
I still liked the spin-off attempt. One of the main reasons I liked it is because it definitively freed Ralph and Pam from the suit so there was not a lot cameo requirements had the series gone on for longer. I think it would have worked if Bill had been changed too though. Let him pick the partner replacement.
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Post by MelMac on May 19, 2008 16:08:21 GMT -5
I still liked the spin-off attempt. One of the main reasons I liked it is because it definitively freed Ralph and Pam from the suit so there was not a lot cameo requirements had the series gone on for longer. I think it would have worked if Bill had been changed too though. Let him pick the partner replacement. That was what got me - and I think a good point if they did do a movie - make sure they have a new team if they go the route of changing suit wearers. Meaning no new wearer with Ralph, Pam or Bill being the sidekick. Still think they should've at least given a reason why the three probably wouldn't see each other again - i.e. did the greenguys ban the two from seeing Bill and Holly under the guise of if they did the world would remember? Or that in reality the greenguys were going to make the two forget when they left the new team of Bill and Holly and realized the greenguys were going to make them forget?
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Post by mmderdekea on May 19, 2008 19:27:24 GMT -5
Ah, the show was too awful to put too much mental thought into it! To repeat myself, I doubt Bill never saw Ralph and Pam again--I bet he was over there at their home all the time, eating their old guacamole, sharing cases about him and Holly and complaining and occasionally praising her, and JUST complaining about her kid, who I do think he wound up giving to the GG to live on some OTHER garden planet, far, far away from Earth. Of course this is all extrapolation as if the show was "real", which it absolutely wasn't! Mona PS--Mel, nice to agree with you! See, I knew it could happen one day!
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Post by MelMac on May 19, 2008 22:02:23 GMT -5
Ah, the show was too awful to put too much mental thought into it! To repeat myself, I doubt Bill never saw Ralph and Pam again--I bet he was over there at their home all the time, eating their old guacamole, sharing cases about him and Holly and complaining and occasionally praising her, and JUST complaining about her kid, who I do think he wound up giving to the GG to live on some OTHER garden planet, far, far away from Earth. Of course this is all extrapolation as if the show was "real", which it absolutely wasn't! Mona PS--Mel, nice to agree with you! See, I knew it could happen one day! You sum it up nicely - I have a sinking feeling that if it did continue, this would've happened. Goes to show how off base the spinoff was. Doubt too that Bill would've given up on Ralph and Pam as well as vice versa - just a horrible way to split the team.
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Post by MST3Claye on May 24, 2008 11:20:27 GMT -5
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Post by Videofox on May 24, 2008 12:08:41 GMT -5
Yeah I saw this and thought of "Maxwell Syndrome." The Indiana Jones movies are meant to be more fantasy than historical documentaries (with the exception of Young Indiana Jones, which I got bored with after feeling like I was back in high school watching it). It is nice to have something besides Nazis for a change anyway. I don't remember any neo-Nazi groups (and we know they are out there!) raising a stink about the previous movies either. Of course, we didn't have the Internet back then for them to blog any protests through anyway. I say no big deal. It's. Just. A. Movie. And we've had more American movies where Americans themselves are our own worst enemy, so I say that Hollywood is an Equal Opportunity Employer when it comes to villains. Which leads back to a question we debated before over whether or not a new GAH show should remain in the U.S. or change format by traveling the world pursuing new types of international cases, which now seems would be a huge opportunity for any other countries a GAH might visit to spout against American interference in their affairs. "American superhero? We don't need no stinkin' American superhero!!" Probably best to stay home and only fight American Anti-Americans. We wouldn't want one episode of GAH to go down in history as the event that sparked World War III. ;D Or would we?
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Post by jopierce on May 25, 2008 8:05:00 GMT -5
The Indiana Jones movies are meant to be more fantasy than historical documentaries (with the exception of Young Indiana Jones, which I got bored with after feeling like I was back in high school watching it). I dunno.
I believe in all this stuff.... Crystal Skulls with magic powers... Holy Grails... Lost Arks... Indiana Jones actually being taken seriously as an archaeologist...
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Post by culpkatt on May 25, 2008 11:50:11 GMT -5
Ah, the show was too awful to put too much mental thought into it! To repeat myself, I doubt Bill never saw Ralph and Pam again--I bet he was over there at their home all the time, eating their old guacamole, sharing cases about him and Holly and complaining and occasionally praising her, and JUST complaining about her kid, who I do think he wound up giving to the GG to live on some OTHER garden planet, far, far away from Earth. That is hilarious. Maybe somebody should write a fanfic about that.
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Post by HoudiniDerek on May 25, 2008 13:04:07 GMT -5
The Indiana Jones movies are meant to be more fantasy than historical documentaries (with the exception of Young Indiana Jones, which I got bored with after feeling like I was back in high school watching it). I dunno.
I believe in all this stuff.... Crystal Skulls with magic powers... Holy Grails... Lost Arks... Indiana Jones actually being taken seriously as an archaeologist...So you believe the world is ending on December 21, 2012?
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Post by MelMac on Jun 18, 2008 14:49:53 GMT -5
I dunno.
I believe in all this stuff.... Crystal Skulls with magic powers... Holy Grails... Lost Arks... Indiana Jones actually being taken seriously as an archaeologist...So you believe the world is ending on December 21, 2012? Seems everytime the dragon rears its head on the Chinese calendar, there's predictions of Doomsday. And I agree with Jo - I especially believe in crystal skeletons that will attract ball bearings and make compasses out of gunpowder - not to mention attract non magnetic metals such as gold to it. Oh, and that one can survive being at ground zero of a nuclear blast hiding in a lead-lined refrigerator ... not to mention the Slip 'n' Slide was around in the 1950s. And one more thing: That the white watertowers of today were around in the 1950s.
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 19, 2008 6:29:07 GMT -5
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Post by greenguy on Aug 19, 2008 7:11:13 GMT -5
Yes, but since this is my board, and I don't allow that sort of language here..........
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 19, 2008 7:32:27 GMT -5
Yes, but since this is my board, and I don't allow that sort of language here.......... did I miss something?
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Post by MelMac on Aug 19, 2008 7:44:53 GMT -5
Yes, but since this is my board, and I don't allow that sort of language here.......... did I miss something? My Guess: Greenguy is like all of us and does not agree with a lot of the call information on the character of Ralph. Things such as that they meet the greenguys in Tempe, Ariz., and such. Plus, the film was never supposed to start filming in July. When I chatted with Cannell's group about the movie rumor (at the time), they confirmed they were doing something in house, but no date was set. This has also been confirmed since via interviews with the cast on the upcoming endeavor. Personally, and I still believe this - people had gotten "TGAH 2008's" start date (no further comment there) confused with an official "GAH" project. One plus, however, is at least this person knew that the film and such are Ralph, Pam and Bill, unlike the blogger who insisted that they had already started showing the webisodes (i.e. "TGAH 2008" - which is inaccurate.)
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Post by greenguy on Aug 19, 2008 8:08:28 GMT -5
My Guess: Greenguy is like all of us and does not agree with a lot of the call information on the character of Ralph. Things such as that they meet the greenguys in Tempe, Ariz., and such. Plus, the film was never supposed to start filming in July. When I chatted with Cannell's group about the movie rumor (at the time), they confirmed they were doing something in house, but no date was set. This has also been confirmed since via interviews with the cast on the upcoming endeavor. Personally, and I still believe this - people had gotten "TGAH 2008's" start date (no further comment there) confused with an official "GAH" project. One plus, however, is at least this person knew that the film and such are Ralph, Pam and Bill, unlike the blogger who insisted that they had already started showing the webisodes (i.e. "TGAH 2008" - which is inaccurate.) Yes, that's it. This guy months ago had been promoting, what for the most part were a pack of lies. Now he has nerve to link to something official. He's a joke.
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Post by Ms Boku on Aug 19, 2008 16:57:36 GMT -5
Ohhhhh. Yeah I did miss it. well, now having been up to speed...I agree.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 20, 2008 11:27:45 GMT -5
What I find interesting is they have the finances ready and script, and are now trying to find a distributor. Still, that's progress toward this, and it helps too that there's a lot of talk on the script out in the public. Gets people interested in them doing one, and helps show the companies this is something to look at too.
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Post by greenguy on Aug 20, 2008 13:51:43 GMT -5
What I find interesting is they have the finances ready and script, and are now trying to find a distributor. Still, that's progress toward this, and it helps too that there's a lot of talk on the script out in the public. Gets people interested in them doing one, and helps show the companies this is something to look at too. Well it appears that Cannell has the project back now, as opposed to it being in the hands of Touchstone/Disney like it was before. That's why he's looking for distrbution. I'm assuming he's put the cash together from his own pocket, or other sources. It will be interesting to see if he can make it fly.
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Post by MelMac on Aug 20, 2008 14:21:46 GMT -5
What I find interesting is they have the finances ready and script, and are now trying to find a distributor. Still, that's progress toward this, and it helps too that there's a lot of talk on the script out in the public. Gets people interested in them doing one, and helps show the companies this is something to look at too. Well it appears that Cannell has the project back now, as opposed to it being in the hands of Touchstone/Disney like it was before. That's why he's looking for distrbution. I'm assuming he's put the cash together from his own pocket, or other sources. It will be interesting to see if he can make it fly. Yep, it does look like that, and I hope that he can make it fly. All the more reason for us to support the comic book and the animated shorts when they come out. Have to say the comic book looks terrific if the ashcan says anything. I think one of the best pics is the two looking up at the ship in that last page they posted up. They look very much like Katt and Culp in that pilot - even if Katt's hair is as long as it was third season.
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